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Forums - Sales - October 2013 NPD Thread! 3DS: 452k, 360: 166k

Lawlight said:
tbone51 said:
Lawlight said:
So, 12M for Pokemon doesn't look so bad all of a sudden, right?


No because its going to easily surpass it, its halfway there in one month of sales


Still - tracking 1.8M behind B&W with the gap increasing each week. Good luck with that.

Clearly, B/W's sales were more front-loaded than those of D/P. From this observation, you conclude that the series is declining in popularity. Here's the problem, though -- if B/W's sales were an indication that the series was declining in popularity, its opening would have been weaker than D/P's, not stronger.

Basically, if I ask, "Why did B/W have a stronger opening than D/P?" it would be contradictory to answer, "Because B/W were less popular." It's blatantly obvious to almost everyone on this website except you that the cause of B/W's stronger opening was the massive DS install base at the time of their release. This already clears up the X/Y issue, as we can't expect them to have as strong an opening as B/W. But let's continue.

If B/W had a stronger opening than D/P, yet sold fewer copies in the long run, then it must have had weaker legs. That begs a new question, "Why did B/W have weaker legs than D/P?" Your answer to this question would be the same as your answer to the first, that the series is declining in popularity. But this doesn't gel with B/W's opening or X/Y's opening. Once again, the truth is obvious, though you try to deny it.

Pokemon Black and White were released in September 2010 in Japan and March 2011 in the West. The Nintendo 3DS launched in February 2011 in Japan (fewer than 6 months after B/W's release) and March 2011 in the West (less than a month after B/W's release). The 3DS got off to a shaky start, but it was doing quite well by the time its first Holiday season rolled around -- which also happened to be B/W's first Holiday season in the West. There's no question that B/W's proximity to the 3DS launch would be detrimental to its long-term sales.

It's such a simple explanation, yet you continue to ignore it. So where is your proof that Pokemon is in decline? You've offered no substantial evidence to back your claim. You merely regurgitate the same old comparison with B/W's opening with no understanding of the cause of those sales.



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Wow, Wii U 50k-60k, Vita below 30k.

3DS > Everything else combined.

 

Ze overtrackzies:

Wii U: 26k-36k

Wii: 12k-22k

Vita: 6k

PS3: 29k-49k

360: 51k

3DS: 11k



Ouch Wii U...



forest-spirit said:

Wow, Wii U 50k-60k, Vita below 30k.

3DS > Everything else combined.

 

Ze overtrackzies:

Wii U: 26k-36k

Wii: 12k-22k

Vita: 6k

PS3: 29k-49k

360: 51k

3DS: 11k


This gen belongs to 3DS, PS4 and XB1. Everything else will die off soon or plod along.

Stark contrast to the 5 platforms last gen.



 

Even with October being a four-week month taken into account things ain't looking good. Wii U dropped quite a bit and Vita is what it is.



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Max King of the Wild said:
Ouch Wii U...


did you give up on the vita already



Well, i expected wiiu to do 60K, since no real killer software this month. But finally selling better than wii is something.



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Today most hardware design is left to other companies, but when you make hardware without taking into account the needs of the eventual software developers, you end up with bloated hardware full of pointless excess. From the outset one must consider design from both a hardware and software perspective."

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Seece said:
forest-spirit said:

Wow, Wii U 50k-60k, Vita below 30k.

3DS > Everything else combined.

 

Ze overtrackzies:

Wii U: 26k-36k

Wii: 12k-22k

Vita: 6k

PS3: 29k-49k

360: 51k

3DS: 11k


This gen belongs to 3DS, PS4 and XB1. Everything else will die off soon or plod along.

Stark contrast to the 5 platforms last gen.


Unless Nintendo and Sony starts to take things seriously with Wii U and Vita respectively the 8th gen will only have three contestants. And time's running out fast.



trestres said:
Lol at Nintendo not sharing the WiiU numbers, they must have been catastrophic.

The last paragraphs simply embarrass me. The desperation Nintendo is showing with regards to its home console is alarming.

3DS doing good, Pokemon overtracked by around a million, but if we add all of the Americas that may go down to 800k or so.


What desperation? I don't see Reggie, Iwata nor any Nintendo employee twiting like stupids, doing useless Nintendo Directs or anything like that. 

What I do think is that they are really dissapointed, but not desperate. Way to go to tell things. 



tbone51 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Ouch Wii U...


did you give up on the vita already

Only time I've ever talked bout Vita was when Koenicki was downplaying it hardcore. Other than that, I've never gave the Vita two thoughts