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fatslob-:O on 08 November 2013
Viper1 said:
fatslob-:O said:
Viper1 said:
So an unnamed "dev" makes several claims with nothing to support it and some people accept every word he says as absolute fact.

Then we get actual developers with their actual names and reputations and they contradict the anonymous "dev" and people just want to bring up vagueness, thermal designs and ignore the fact the "dev" was wrong.

I see.

Your missing something very important in that thread. They were not just talking of downgrade. The had basically listed everyone the most consistent specs. Just to back the "most consistent" part a developer here by the name of nylevia basically stated that the range was 150 to 200. 

 

I honestly don't believe that "downgrade" but the listed specs seem pretty inline with everything observed so far. Nothing was exactly "vague" in this thread if you knew how high tech would work. Don't just ignore thermal designs of a semiconductor! They may even tell which chip is more "powerful". Process nodes evenly matched, a 5 watt gpu isn' going to be beating a 300 watt gpu anytime soon. The dev maybe wrong about the downgrade but most probably are right about the specs! (After all the wii u consumes less than 35 watts!)

As Wyrdness said, anybody can claim to be a dev and spout the same rumors.  

What we do know is anonymous people say one thing and real developers say something else.  All the numbers in the world don't mean a damn thing if all the numbers are speculation.  Yes, we have the TDP but TDP doesn't tell you the entire story and it's ignorant (in the literal terms, not derogatory) to draw conclusions beyond just that figure.  Especially when they run contrary to what actual developers with actual names are telling us.

No it ain't! The power draw of a similar processing component with identical manufacturing technology will usually tell which component is faster. You don't just assume that everything is speculation. We knew that a gtx 480 would be faster than the hd 5870 because of the massive power consumption! The same applies when the comparison between an R9 290X to a gtx titan despite the fact that the R9 290X had a smaller die it managed to defeat the gtx titan through bare power consumption! The developers will never release the specs so soon so it's alot better to go on an educated guess rather than wait for them to say something that won't disclose anything about the system.



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bonzobanana on 08 November 2013

Well I thought it was a Radeon HD 6400. I'm still fairly sure its a mobility radeon design. The HD 6400 only has 4 rops though. The thing is you wouldn't normally have 8 texture units and 8 rops so I still think they have this wrong and it is a HD 6400.

I really think Nintendo would have used a mobility radeon. It makes complete sense with the size of the wii u and the Radeon HD 6400 is a perfect fit.



fatslob-:O on 08 November 2013
Teriol said:
Viper1 said:
fatslob-:O said:
Viper1 said:
So an unnamed "dev" makes several claims with nothing to support it and some people accept every word he says as absolute fact.

Then we get actual developers with their actual names and reputations and they contradict the anonymous "dev" and people just want to bring up vagueness, thermal designs and ignore the fact the "dev" was wrong.

I see.

Your missing something very important in that thread. They were not just talking of downgrade. The had basically listed everyone the most consistent specs. Just to back the "most consistent" part a developer here by the name of nylevia basically stated that the range was 150 to 200. 

 

I honestly don't believe that "downgrade" but the listed specs seem pretty inline with everything observed so far. Nothing was exactly "vague" in this thread if you knew how high tech would work. Don't just ignore thermal designs of a semiconductor! They may even tell which chip is more "powerful". Process nodes evenly matched, a 5 watt gpu isn' going to be beating a 300 watt gpu anytime soon. The dev maybe wrong about the downgrade but most probably are right about the specs! (After all the wii u consumes less than 35 watts!)

As Wyrdness said, anybody can claim to be a dev and spout the same rumors.  

What we do know is anonymous people say one thing and real developers say something else.  All the numbers in the world don't mean a damn thing if all the numbers are speculation.  Yes, we have the TDP but TDP doesn't tell you the entire story and it's ignorant (in the literal terms, not derogatory) to draw conclusions beyond just that figure.  Especially when they run contrary to what actual developers with actual names are telling us.

so this guy believe in the mantra " anonimous dev" but don't believe in a real dev pricing the WiiU?... for me he is just trolling.

Read my other comments in the thread. In no way were the posts classified as "trolling". If you think I'm trolling then don't be showing up on site forums such as anandtech or toms hardware other highly technical forums otherwise your gonna get destroyed like eyeofcore did when he did it.



eyeofcore on 08 November 2013
fatslob-:O said:
Teriol said:
Viper1 said:
fatslob-:O said:
Viper1 said:
So an unnamed "dev" makes several claims with nothing to support it and some people accept every word he says as absolute fact.

Then we get actual developers with their actual names and reputations and they contradict the anonymous "dev" and people just want to bring up vagueness, thermal designs and ignore the fact the "dev" was wrong.

I see.

Your missing something very important in that thread. They were not just talking of downgrade. The had basically listed everyone the most consistent specs. Just to back the "most consistent" part a developer here by the name of nylevia basically stated that the range was 150 to 200. 

 

I honestly don't believe that "downgrade" but the listed specs seem pretty inline with everything observed so far. Nothing was exactly "vague" in this thread if you knew how high tech would work. Don't just ignore thermal designs of a semiconductor! They may even tell which chip is more "powerful". Process nodes evenly matched, a 5 watt gpu isn' going to be beating a 300 watt gpu anytime soon. The dev maybe wrong about the downgrade but most probably are right about the specs! (After all the wii u consumes less than 35 watts!)

As Wyrdness said, anybody can claim to be a dev and spout the same rumors.  

What we do know is anonymous people say one thing and real developers say something else.  All the numbers in the world don't mean a damn thing if all the numbers are speculation.  Yes, we have the TDP but TDP doesn't tell you the entire story and it's ignorant (in the literal terms, not derogatory) to draw conclusions beyond just that figure.  Especially when they run contrary to what actual developers with actual names are telling us.

so this guy believe in the mantra " anonimous dev" but don't believe in a real dev pricing the WiiU?... for me he is just trolling.

Read my other comments in the thread. In no way were the posts classified as "trolling". If you think I'm trolling then don't be showing up on site forums such as anandtech or toms hardware other highly technical forums otherwise your gonna get destroyed like eyeofcore did when he did it.

Hey... I pwned you... People, look at my comment. Hopefully you will understand.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=171277&page=7



Hynad on 08 November 2013
eyeofcore said:

Hey... I pwned you... People, look at my comment. Hopefully you will understand.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=171277&page=7


Why do I get the feeling you're confusing youtube with gamrconnect?



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firelink on 08 November 2013

There is absolutely no way a developer could determine those specs unless they worked for Nintendo. That information is not freely available to developers.



fatslob-:O on 08 November 2013
eyeofcore said:
fatslob-:O said:
Teriol said:
Viper1 said:
fatslob-:O said:
Viper1 said:
So an unnamed "dev" makes several claims with nothing to support it and some people accept every word he says as absolute fact.

Then we get actual developers with their actual names and reputations and they contradict the anonymous "dev" and people just want to bring up vagueness, thermal designs and ignore the fact the "dev" was wrong.

I see.

Your missing something very important in that thread. They were not just talking of downgrade. The had basically listed everyone the most consistent specs. Just to back the "most consistent" part a developer here by the name of nylevia basically stated that the range was 150 to 200. 

 

I honestly don't believe that "downgrade" but the listed specs seem pretty inline with everything observed so far. Nothing was exactly "vague" in this thread if you knew how high tech would work. Don't just ignore thermal designs of a semiconductor! They may even tell which chip is more "powerful". Process nodes evenly matched, a 5 watt gpu isn' going to be beating a 300 watt gpu anytime soon. The dev maybe wrong about the downgrade but most probably are right about the specs! (After all the wii u consumes less than 35 watts!)

As Wyrdness said, anybody can claim to be a dev and spout the same rumors.  

What we do know is anonymous people say one thing and real developers say something else.  All the numbers in the world don't mean a damn thing if all the numbers are speculation.  Yes, we have the TDP but TDP doesn't tell you the entire story and it's ignorant (in the literal terms, not derogatory) to draw conclusions beyond just that figure.  Especially when they run contrary to what actual developers with actual names are telling us.

so this guy believe in the mantra " anonimous dev" but don't believe in a real dev pricing the WiiU?... for me he is just trolling.

Read my other comments in the thread. In no way were the posts classified as "trolling". If you think I'm trolling then don't be showing up on site forums such as anandtech or toms hardware other highly technical forums otherwise your gonna get destroyed like eyeofcore did when he did it.

Hey... I pwned you... People, look at my comment. Hopefully you will understand.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=171277&page=7

What a sad post. Are you obssessing a man over the internet ?  

You can fix your denial but you can't fix the obssession LOLOL. 



fatslob-:O on 08 November 2013
Hynad said:
eyeofcore said:

Hey... I pwned you... People, look at my comment. Hopefully you will understand.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=171277&page=7


Why do I get the feeling you're confusing youtube with gamrconnect?

He is a troll from youtube LOL and he got destroyed so badly at the guys at anandtech.



Rabus on 08 November 2013

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eyeofcore on 08 November 2013
fatslob-:O said:
eyeofcore said:
fatslob-:O said:
Teriol said:
Viper1 said:
fatslob-:O said:
Viper1 said:
So an unnamed "dev" makes several claims with nothing to support it and some people accept every word he says as absolute fact.

Then we get actual developers with their actual names and reputations and they contradict the anonymous "dev" and people just want to bring up vagueness, thermal designs and ignore the fact the "dev" was wrong.

I see.

Your missing something very important in that thread. They were not just talking of downgrade. The had basically listed everyone the most consistent specs. Just to back the "most consistent" part a developer here by the name of nylevia basically stated that the range was 150 to 200. 

 

I honestly don't believe that "downgrade" but the listed specs seem pretty inline with everything observed so far. Nothing was exactly "vague" in this thread if you knew how high tech would work. Don't just ignore thermal designs of a semiconductor! They may even tell which chip is more "powerful". Process nodes evenly matched, a 5 watt gpu isn' going to be beating a 300 watt gpu anytime soon. The dev maybe wrong about the downgrade but most probably are right about the specs! (After all the wii u consumes less than 35 watts!)

As Wyrdness said, anybody can claim to be a dev and spout the same rumors.  

What we do know is anonymous people say one thing and real developers say something else.  All the numbers in the world don't mean a damn thing if all the numbers are speculation.  Yes, we have the TDP but TDP doesn't tell you the entire story and it's ignorant (in the literal terms, not derogatory) to draw conclusions beyond just that figure.  Especially when they run contrary to what actual developers with actual names are telling us.

so this guy believe in the mantra " anonimous dev" but don't believe in a real dev pricing the WiiU?... for me he is just trolling.

Read my other comments in the thread. In no way were the posts classified as "trolling". If you think I'm trolling then don't be showing up on site forums such as anandtech or toms hardware other highly technical forums otherwise your gonna get destroyed like eyeofcore did when he did it.

Hey... I pwned you... People, look at my comment. Hopefully you will understand.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=171277&page=7

What a sad post. Are you obssessing a man over the internet ?  

You can fix your denial but you can't fix the obssession LOLOL. 


You are sad going around all things involving Nintendo, trolling and that... I don't obssessing you, you think yourself highly right? lmao

Yet I don't have an obsession and yet I don't have a denial... Stop doing damage control, its pathetic. Nothing is really certain in all honesty...

You are forcing 160-200 Shaders on basis of rumors and stating them fact based upon cheap Xbox 360 ports that are only optimized for Wii U's hardware to a degree to have a acceptable performance. You will try to twist and take my replies out of context.