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Viper1 said:
fatslob-:O said:
Viper1 said:
So an unnamed "dev" makes several claims with nothing to support it and some people accept every word he says as absolute fact.

Then we get actual developers with their actual names and reputations and they contradict the anonymous "dev" and people just want to bring up vagueness, thermal designs and ignore the fact the "dev" was wrong.

I see.

Your missing something very important in that thread. They were not just talking of downgrade. The had basically listed everyone the most consistent specs. Just to back the "most consistent" part a developer here by the name of nylevia basically stated that the range was 150 to 200. 

 

I honestly don't believe that "downgrade" but the listed specs seem pretty inline with everything observed so far. Nothing was exactly "vague" in this thread if you knew how high tech would work. Don't just ignore thermal designs of a semiconductor! They may even tell which chip is more "powerful". Process nodes evenly matched, a 5 watt gpu isn' going to be beating a 300 watt gpu anytime soon. The dev maybe wrong about the downgrade but most probably are right about the specs! (After all the wii u consumes less than 35 watts!)

As Wyrdness said, anybody can claim to be a dev and spout the same rumors.  

What we do know is anonymous people say one thing and real developers say something else.  All the numbers in the world don't mean a damn thing if all the numbers are speculation.  Yes, we have the TDP but TDP doesn't tell you the entire story and it's ignorant (in the literal terms, not derogatory) to draw conclusions beyond just that figure.  Especially when they run contrary to what actual developers with actual names are telling us.

No it ain't! The power draw of a similar processing component with identical manufacturing technology will usually tell which component is faster. You don't just assume that everything is speculation. We knew that a gtx 480 would be faster than the hd 5870 because of the massive power consumption! The same applies when the comparison between an R9 290X to a gtx titan despite the fact that the R9 290X had a smaller die it managed to defeat the gtx titan through bare power consumption! The developers will never release the specs so soon so it's alot better to go on an educated guess rather than wait for them to say something that won't disclose anything about the system.