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Dark_Feanor said:
If Microsoft were a little more agressive with 360 price (if they care to win the console war) they could once more retake the lead this hollydays...

You mean, like last holidays and the holidays before, when the 12G Kinect bundle sold for $169, and the 250G Kinect bundle sold for $199  (each wth a ton of games) over here?



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PS3
As of November 2nd. 80million+

TOKYO, Nov. 6, 2013 — Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCE) today announced that cumulative sales of the PlayStation 3 (PS3) computer entertainment system has reached a milestone of 80 million units*1 worldwide as of November 2, 2013.

XBOX 360
As of September 30th 79.4million
June 30th to September 30th 1.1million
As of October 17th 80 million

So in 4months 1.1million, but in two weeks 600,000. ok then........

I guess we will finally know that PS3 passed 360 at the end of the calendar year.

Edit we have PSP ahead of PS3 again 79.99, I wonder when (If) Sony will announce 80million sold for PSP?



PSP Lifetime more than PSV+3DS Lifetime.

CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:
That's...quite a change...

Poor PS3, I thought it had this one you know.

Poor PS3, yet it still has its lead on the 360 and still outsells everything but the 3DS. Ultimately, there wasn't much thay changed. Still, I admit that you crack me up with your unwarranted pessimism.

True, I was referring more to the 80mil landmark which it hit. It's still doing incredibly well for such an old system (but is rather down YoY, but that's to be expected). Will it outsell the Wii? I'm not so certain anymore, but even if it doesn't it'll be quite the turnaround from the relatively ropey beginnings. 



 

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CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:
CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:
That's...quite a change...

Poor PS3, I thought it had this one you know.

Poor PS3, yet it still has its lead on the 360 and still outsells everything but the 3DS. Ultimately, there wasn't much thay changed. Still, I admit that you crack me up with your unwarranted pessimism.

True, I was referring more to the 80mil landmark which it hit. It's still doing incredibly well for such an old system (but is rather down YoY, but that's to be expected). Will it outsell the Wii? I'm not so certain anymore, but even if it doesn't it'll be quite the turnaround from the relatively ropey beginnings. 

Lulz, the reduction wasn't that major. If it doesn't top the Wii, which was never a certainty, this adjustment will have little to no impact. It's not like it was in the millions.

710k in less than 6 months (with more likely to come as well if you listen to some) is quite the reduction. That's like over 25k per week, or roughly a 17% sales decrease on average. I'd say that's pretty sizable. 



 

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CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:

710k in less than 6 months (with more likely to come as well if you listen to some) is quite the reduction. That's like over 25k per week, or roughly a 17% sales decrease on average. I'd say that's pretty sizable. 

In the overall grand scheme, it's not that big of a reduction. You're talking not even 1% of 80 million. As I said, if it isn't going to pass the Wii, this reduction wouldn't have made a huge overall difference. It just wouldn't.

It's definitely not sizeable enough to warrant your pessimism, but then....

But then what? As we've discussed before, I don't mean to be pessimistic (I'm a massive Sony fan), but I frequently struggle to get my point across.

My opinion is that the PS3 is doing excellently. Not as excellently as we thought, but that's to be expected. The games library this year has been stellar, and there's more to come. It's been quite the hurrah for the system this year, and it deserves every sale. I just see this decrease as a little disheartening, because to me it's quite a drop (for both Sony and VGC), and I agree that this won't make a massive change in it's overall sales potential. I still don't think that it'll pass the Wii, but that's just my opinion. And that's cool if other people think it will, let's hope it does because it's been the best system this gen. I just don't see it, though.

That's not pessimism. That's just opinion. I don't think the Wii U will pass 40mil LT, and it'll sell around a half of the PS4. Is that pessimistic? Nah, it's just an opinion. Other people are allowed to have their own, and good for them. It encourages discussion and activity. If everyone thought the same, this site would be long since dead. But having an opinion in something doesn't make you a pessimist or a hater of a particular company, just because you don't think it'll sell all that well.

You can disagree. That'd be fine. Call me a hater if you'd like, because I know that simply isn't the case. I honestly can't tell if you know that and are just attempting sarcasm now (which admittadly is hard on the Internet!), or what have you. But I believe I can catergorically state that whatever you think my stance is with regards to Sony products is likely wrong.

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Hmm, that sorta went a little bit off tangent there. My apologies



 

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★PS3⇒ 80.44mil (Pre Adjustments) → 79.73mil Overtraked by 710k --> Agree
★Wii-U ⇒3.86mil (Pre Adjustments) → 3.78mil Overtracked by 80k --> (Agree)
★X360⇒ No Adjustments Here (Maybe just Minor) --> Undertracked by around 300k (100k above PS3)
★PSV⇒ 5.99mil (Pre Adjustments) → 6.08mil Undertracked by around 90k --> disagree --> overtracked by around 500k or more
★3DS⇒ 35.88mil (Pre Adjustments) → 36.15mil --> disagree --> Spot on

One more: PSP: Overtracked by 500k or more.
PSP + PSVita is overtracked by at least 1.3 million.

I think we need more adjustments, but who am I to say this?



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Conegamer said:
CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:
That's...quite a change...

Poor PS3, I thought it had this one you know.

Poor PS3, yet it still has its lead on the 360 and still outsells everything but the 3DS. Ultimately, there wasn't much thay changed. Still, I admit that you crack me up with your unwarranted pessimism.

True, I was referring more to the 80mil landmark which it hit. It's still doing incredibly well for such an old system (but is rather down YoY, but that's to be expected). Will it outsell the Wii? I'm not so certain anymore, but even if it doesn't it'll be quite the turnaround from the relatively ropey beginnings. 

Unless PS3 completely drop off the cliff next year, it will outsell the Wii.



Lawlight said:
Conegamer said:
CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:
That's...quite a change...

Poor PS3, I thought it had this one you know.

Poor PS3, yet it still has its lead on the 360 and still outsells everything but the 3DS. Ultimately, there wasn't much thay changed. Still, I admit that you crack me up with your unwarranted pessimism.

True, I was referring more to the 80mil landmark which it hit. It's still doing incredibly well for such an old system (but is rather down YoY, but that's to be expected). Will it outsell the Wii? I'm not so certain anymore, but even if it doesn't it'll be quite the turnaround from the relatively ropey beginnings. 

Unless PS3 completely drop off the cliff next year, it will outsell the Wii.

Its funny how you dont use your logic  for Sony as you do for Nintendo (MH4+XY)



tbone51 said:
Lawlight said:
Conegamer said:
CGI-Quality said:
Conegamer said:
That's...quite a change...

Poor PS3, I thought it had this one you know.

Poor PS3, yet it still has its lead on the 360 and still outsells everything but the 3DS. Ultimately, there wasn't much thay changed. Still, I admit that you crack me up with your unwarranted pessimism.

True, I was referring more to the 80mil landmark which it hit. It's still doing incredibly well for such an old system (but is rather down YoY, but that's to be expected). Will it outsell the Wii? I'm not so certain anymore, but even if it doesn't it'll be quite the turnaround from the relatively ropey beginnings. 

Unless PS3 completely drop off the cliff next year, it will outsell the Wii.

Its funny how you dont use your logic  for Sony as you do for Nintendo (MH4+XY)

Maybe you could follow your own advice before you preach it to others?



3ds UNDERTRACTED wow too bad for the ps3 though but man 3ds is already a beast and everyone thought it sold less than VGC said so but it sold even more