theprof00 said:
I just read a thread about a member here losing faith in the xbox one and frankly it was the last straw. It's time to stand up for the little guy and point out some things that apparently only myself and a handful of other people in the world can see.
You should let it go, just because one person says they lost faith doesnt mean its time to go on a crusade, microsoft isnt "the little guy" through no fault of their own, their actions, inactions and deception is what placed them where they currently are.
Strategy: Microsoft is entering many different markets, and have developed the xbox one in such a way that as the console performs, so do the underlying technologies.
It is a normal games console with hdmi passthrough slapped on.
Here are the markets it is either establishing a position in or fortifying. 1. Consumer trend tracking and statistics Not a single person buying this console is doing so for this.
2. Blu-ray Given the availability of blu-ray players, functioning as a blu-ray player is not a primary reason to own the console.
3. Cloud and cloud-based retail application Again, not a selling point.
4. "Hands-free" navigation Lifting your hands to navigate with kinect is still using your hands, using voice control to navigate while nice in concept is nothing new, and i believe, available, or will be available, to playstation 4 users who purchase the camera too.
5. Home network Again, much cheaper options available, many modern TVs have this feature built in.
6. DVR and television programming That little black box under the tv that has been there all along, does this anyway, and more over, the xbox itself does not act asa DVR, instead it controls your existing equipment remotely, you cannot record TV directly from the xbox, nor does the xbox one feature any type of tuner, all it does is hdmi passthrough and overlay its UI on the passed stream, programming is done by the age old downloading of guide data and overlaying said guide over the hdmi passthrough.
7. Television production Not sure what youre trying to point out here but any device that uses a tv is just as much a reason as anythng else to push tv sales - that being said, the recent drama about few titles supporting 1080p would result in, if anything only sales in cheaper, lower resolution sets.
8. Streaming UGC Will be available on PS4 also, has been possible on a PC/Mac for an extremely long time, the restrictions placed by both microsoft and sony will ultimately prevent this feature from being as useful as existing methods.
Now let's take a look at XB1's relative strengths: 1. It is the only "all in one" product on the market that can also play AAA video games. Unlike competing products like AppleTV, WDTV, Roku, GoogleTV, Chromecast, YouView- the XB1 provides a complete suite of functions atop competitive offerings. While many of these competitors do provide things like "snap-in" and gesture/phone navigation and gaming, they still lack the heavy hitter games that move boxes like Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto. Additionally, Tivo/DVR functions on most of these boxes require an upgrade of a harddrive. This generally results in increasing the price from anywhere around 79$ to 149$.
Again, the xbox one cannot act as a DVR, and those Tivo/DVR/Cable/Set top boxes are STILL REQUIRED along side the xbox one, to access said features, you seem somewhat misinformed about a product youre supposidly defending.
2. Clear identity. Face it, there is literally no product on the planet that provides a similar experience to the xbox one... in fact, even if a product was developed that could use gestures, play AAA games, record live tv, and have the kind of integration and streaming that xb1 has, it would cost much much more. One could argue that playstation is capable of doing the same with its offering, but for a great number of people (50% of 160m, according to current xbox360/ps3 numbers) the most important features are kinect, and the xbox franchises. I challenge you to point out a console that has kinect-like functionality with as robust an entertainment offering and game library as xb1 provides. Yet again, xbox one cannot record live tv, all you have is a more powerful xbox 360 with hdmi passthrough, you are overblowing the tv functionality quite considerably.
3. Look at it this way. The xb1 basically is a smart-phone for your home. We've become conditioned to all the apps and functions that our phones provide. It's only natural that we would see something similar come to the livingroom, complete with its own social-subscription though at a far cheaper price than a typical monthly verizon bill would come to, yet can do so much more (author's note: even phone calls!)
Unfortunately, tablets such as the iPad and similar have been the smart-phone for your home for the past few years already, they are better suited and cheaper.
4. MS owns some of the best selling franchises on the planet. While arguable, when speaking of AAA-console-generation-exclusives MS owns the best selling games in nearly every genre. Authors note: I have excluded casual games such as phone or wii-games as they do not directly compete with MS' offering.
No, that would actually be Nintendo, youre just discounting them because they break your argument, casual games and wii games DO compete with MS' offerings, because they are games that cannot be played on MS hardware, period, and its right about now that it becomes obvious that you are willing to bend reality to back up your failing argument.
5. Ease of use/pricing. There is no better time to get into all these markets for consumers. It's unlikely you bought any kind of gesture control previously (as appletv sales suck balls) and doubly unlikely you have a computer for streaming (as again, PC market is tanking), so why not up and fix all of that with one simple box? (author's note: yet to be confirmed if you still require a cable box to watch tv with xb1) For 499$, you save yourself precious livingroom space, as in order to get what xb1 offers you would need: 1. Googletv 99$ with a hard drive 49$ - Why is this even listed? 2. DVR cable box 1.79$ per month - DVR box is still needed, the xbox one does NOT replace this requirement. 3. Xbox360 99$ + kinect 99$ - And what if you want to play Xbox 360 games?, Xbox One does not run them, if you dont want to play xbox 360 games this shouldnt even be in the list. 4. subscriptions to netflix and hulu 15$ per month - Instead you pay that and more to access them behind the XBL paywall, right. 5. HD Cables 99$ - Still needed for your DVR, why do you think the xbox one even HAS a hdmi input?, and who the hell pays $99 for HD inputs? oh wait, nobody just the guy trying to inject value artificially to support a terrible argument. 6. Bluray player 99$ - Finally, something that actually makes sense.
You know whats easier than booting up yet another peice of hardware to watch tv or check out whats on tv? simply saving $500 and the electricity costs by using the controller that came with your dvr/cable box/tv and accessing the features they already have.
And yet again, you STILL need a DVR box, and all the cables that come with it, as well as any subcriptions to the tv services you want to use on it, regardless of if you own and use an xbox one or not.
That's at least 2 boxes more (5 v 3) and still come out to the same price during the first month. There is so much value in the system, it's almost unheard of. It makes sense when you hear MS slogan: "All in One, xbox one"
Again, DVR/Cable box is still needed.
6. Free games. Nuff said.
Point me to a games console that doesnt offer free games with their subscription plans.
7. XB1 is already breaking pre-order records and is certain to outsell ps4's first week by a good margin. If you're a console gamer (and we know you are) you're going to want the system that everyone else is getting. Judging by first week sales, that's going to be xb1.
Virtually all wordlwide preorder articles have placed the PS4 ahead of the Xbox One by quite a stretch, so again you are simply blowing smoke out of your rear with no actual evidence so support a bad argument.
8. Just kidding, that's more than enough reasons. I'll let you pick up your brain off the floor now.
If anyones brains hit the floor i assure you it was out of disbelief that a so-called xbox one fan could be so confused and mis-informed about the product he is a fan about.
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