But looking at it from the developers view they are probably trying to appeal to the male demographic, which has different taste and preferences to the female demographic and therefore the characters would be treated differently as men don't want to constantly see topless men but skantaly clad women.

While far less games are geared towards women than men, the idea that games cannot aim for a particular demographic is detrimental given the particular and differing demands from video games that you will get from men and women.

If they make a MGS game with topless men and women dressed in full commando gear I would be 100% fine with it and applaud Konami for giving the underappreciated female demographic their due.

The difference is between sexy and objectifying.

Sexy is great... Objectifying is bad.

As for explaining the difference.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7290-Objectification-And-Men

Really brings home the difference between idealism and objectivication.

Edit: Also. Kratos really? Do you actually think women find Kratos Sexy? I mean, dude is all kinds of fugly.

I mean damn.  Go with Nathan Drake or something.  I mean seriously... 

I agree.  There's nothing wrong with appealing specifically to one demographic even if it offends another.

Lets bring back some of the old character designs that were deemed offensive to specific groups.

For example.

(note.  Sarcasm!)

I don't understand the first part of your argument about the other games fmale characters. If the characters are typically not so sexualized having a sexy character like that in MGS5 is sexist? 

Also it is hard to determine if the character has been objectified since we have yet to see if she has individuality or personality and is purely valued for her physical traits.

Targeting the male demographic is inherently sexist, as you are assuming that all men are looking for the same thing in their games. On top of that, in your example they are assuming that what men are looking for is the female characters to be treated differently from the male charaters, which is another layer of sexism.

The funny thing is, I don't actually think that was what they were going for in this case. Apprently they were doing it for the cosplay, so they are actually targeting women. Of course, that can also be seen as sexist as they are assuming what women look for in cosplay is scantily clad (read objectified) women.

I was talking about the other male characters in the MGS series appearing in this one. Assuming they keep the same clothing, then this character is out of place as she has been sexualized and the men aren't. It isn't a guarantee of sexism, but could be an indicator.

It isn't just about her having a personality. If she has no good reason to be wearing what she is wearing, while everyone around her is in combat gear, that is pretty sexist.

Which really is another thing.  I mean, what percentage of people actually play videogames to be turned on?

I mean.   Pornography exists... and pornography games for that matter.

That every game is trying to give me a boner is slightly disconcerting.

I mean, back before the widespread of internet, sure, it was like what a sears catalog was to our father's generation... a sad last resort... but now a days....

I really don't know, but they have to exist. I can't see why else they would keep adding it to games if there wasn't someone who wanted it.

Agree with what? The line "There's nothing wrong with appealing specifically to one demographic even if it offends another." was not even remotely what I said and I would like you to avoid putting words into my mouth in the future as it is incredibly dishonest.

I would never make any statement about offense as it is quite possibly the most subjective thing on the face of the planet.

Given that you claim you were being sarcastic when you said "There's nothing wrong with appealing specifically to one demographic even if it offends another." does this mean you actually believe There's something wrong with appealing to one demographic even if it offends another?

Some people are offended by killing, does that mean that developers should not make games geared towards those who are not?

Some people are offended by gays, does that mean that developers should not makes gamer geared towards those who are not?

Some people (PETA) are offended by hunting in games, does that mean that developers should not make games geared towards those who are not?

Some people are offended by religion is games, does that mean that developers should not make games geared towards those are not?

One of the most pathetic things people have a habit of saying these days is "I'm offended" as though that gives them some sought of right to censor you.

What I actually said is that sexy does not equal sexism in games and that some games can be geared towards a certain gender.

PS: Blackface was done for the express purpose  degrading black people, the bikini in MGS5 was done to make the character look sexy to appeal to men so they would buy figurines.

Then the problem is not the sexualization of female characters but the absense of personal characteristics or individuality, which given that MGS5 has not come out yet, cannot really be determined for the new character.

Also Kratos may be idealised, but he was not so strong on personality, but big on physical strength, which kinda fits the definition of objectification.

Also I dont have much of a problem with objectification, the idea that we are a seperate being from our bodies does not appeal to me at all.