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Wow theres just soo much much hypocrisy in the gaming community that it's not even funny. I agree with the fact that good games are important but graphics matter to some extent. When the PS3 released you had guys from the xbox camp trashing the shit out of the PS3 when the differences were smaller in multiplats but when it comes to the PS4 they do nothing but defending the weakness instead of acknowledging it and this time the difference is bigger. What's also sad is that the playstation camp is also guilty for hypocrisy too. Apparently they don't realize as to why the PS1 or PS2 were successful. 

It's sad enough that the playstation fanbase is going in hard on the X1 with hypocrisy but what's even more sad is the other camp resorting to denying/damage controlling/downplaying the bigger differences.



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Games are the priority, but what if you could get games and the best performance ?

Xbox One has not more games than PS4(in fact, PS4 will have more games, with japan games and massive support from Sony Studio like xboxvsPS2 and 360vsPS3, story tells you that) , xbox one is overpowered by PS4 ,so what justify $100 more ?



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Jazz2K said:
"When I buy a car, regardless of my needs and taste, all I consider is horsepower!"

If I said this for real people would go "WUT?!?" yes because it all depends on what you like and what you need. This resolution debacle is like a brainwashing propaganda to convince us that except for higher resolution nothing should be an incentive to buy a console.


"When I buy a TV, I take one more expensive with a lower resolution because she has a feature I like (and a nice color)" 



Aerys said:
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Games are the priority, but what if you could get games and the best performance ?

Xbox One has not more games than PS4(in fact, PS4 will have more games, with japan games and massive support from Sony Studio like xboxvsPS2 and 360vsPS3, story tells you that) , xbox one is overpowered by PS4 ,so what justify $100 more ?

Personal preference? Your age? Whether you buy your own sht or not?

There are a thousand reasons to get the X1 over the PS4 and vice versa. Price is only 1 of those reasons and hardly the most important.

I'm a "horse power" freak by nature but even being so I still believe in the X1 offereing better value than the PS4 at launch and so I am willing to get the X1 over the PS4. That isn't to say I can't have a PS4 or won't support the PS4 but that I just don't see the point in doing so at launch.

If I was a kid that depended on my parents to buy me a video game then I can see the PS4 being a better value for my parents ($$.) But then again, that scenario won't be the only one this holiday season.



Yakuzaice said:
Jazz2K said:
"When I buy a car, regardless of my needs and taste, all I consider is horsepower!"

If I said this for real people would go "WUT?!?" yes because it all depends on what you like and what you need. This resolution debacle is like a brainwashing propaganda to convince us that except for higher resolution nothing should be an incentive to buy a console.

The people buying a PS4 or Xbox One at launch aren't comparable to the overall car market.  You'd have to include phones, tablets, desktops, laptops, old consoles, etc.  Also, additional horsepower in your computing device will likely have more real world benefits than more horsepower in your car.  It would be more similar if the government restricted the resolution and frame rate on displays.

If you have already broken it down to comparing the PS4 to the Xbox One, then you are looking at a niche, enthusiast market.

The comparison stands... there are many sites and a lot of people that are ready to diminish consoles that are not as capable graphicaly as the most powerful one. Like putting WiiU aside because it can't compete with next gen graphicaly but Nintendo produce some of the best games in the industry. Some people don't care for super graphics upgrade they are satisfied with Mario Kart 8 graphics and just because it can't produce Forza 5 graphics they have what's most important and that is fun. Their needs is having fun mostly and only powerful graphics don't procure them that.

Same thing for Xbox. I will buy an X1 for many reasons, graphics is one of them but there are many more reasons beside graphics resolution. To me Kinect 2 is a huge feature that is well worth the extra 100$. I don't care if a game like COD is upscaled to 1080p instead of being native 1080p. All I care about is what I want for the family/friends/girlfriend and X1 will provide just that. To my eyes 100$ to get all that is ok because I don't just play games alone.

Different people, different needs. If the videogame media and faboys could stop sucking resolution's d*ck then they wouldn't make all this fuss about B4 and COD. If they could spend more time talking about the new features of the games, what they changed and what makes them better than previous iterations it'd be great. All I hear about Killzone is how good the graphics are, but how does it play? Ryse is a pretty game but it's fun to talk about the gameplay (when fanboys don't derail everything to bash on the 900p resolution) and history. Dan Greenwalt does a good job talking about what makes Forza 5 a better game than Forza 4, how the clouds help with AI etc.

The gaming media should take note and talk about the games, their features and what makes them better than other games, resolution doesn't make Killer Instinct a less appealing title than Drive Club...



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Aerys said:
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Games are the priority, but what if you could get games and the best performance ?

Xbox One has not more games than PS4(in fact, PS4 will have more games, with japan games and massive support from Sony Studio like xboxvsPS2 and 360vsPS3, story tells you that) , xbox one is overpowered by PS4 ,so what justify $100 more ?


kinnect? I mean everyone that makes a big deal about the price leaves out that obvious thing. It's the kinnect that is driving up the price. Sony's camera is less powerfull and functional than the kinnect, while the main focus of the xbox1 is the kinect functionality. Sony's camera sells seperatley for $60 bucks and it's is hardly marketed at all by sony. So off marketing name brad alone the kinect is a more valuable piece of hardware. Now all that is speculation from what I have seen but if sony did the same thing and made their camera a hugee part of the operating system they would want to sell it with the box as well ad the price would be similar.



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RenCutypoison said:
Jazz2K said:
"When I buy a car, regardless of my needs and taste, all I consider is horsepower!"

If I said this for real people would go "WUT?!?" yes because it all depends on what you like and what you need. This resolution debacle is like a brainwashing propaganda to convince us that except for higher resolution nothing should be an incentive to buy a console.


"When I buy a TV, I take one more expensive with a lower resolution because she has a feature I like (and a nice color)" 

This happens a lot with almost every products. People fancy many things like color or decoration over performance. Just like cars. Ask women which they prefer, the car with their favorite color or the car with the more horse power?

You could go with the lesser resolution TV set because the other one has two hdmi, or because it comes with voice control, or because it has built in wifi etc... when I buy a product I consider the overall way before brand loyalty or like you point, resolution.



pokoko said:
Horribly sensationalist article. I could barely read the entire thing. "Doritocracy"? Anything that resorts to ridicule like that, I just can't take seriously. It's a shame they had to go that route instead of a mature analysis.

Personally, as someone to whom the resolution wars don't matter all that, I can completely understand when someone writes an editorial saying--that's right--it doesn't matter all that much.

Also, the attempt to compare entire consoles to PC GPUs, which are dedicated components, was just silliness, especially when the Xbox One has functionality that the PS4 does not. I don't know how much Kinect is worth separately but I'd bet it comes close to that $100 the author keeps talking about, though he never mentions that particular, and very obvious, difference.

If you think that the resolution thing is a deal-breaker, awesome, do what you need to do. However, I'm getting a bit tired of people acting as though it should be a deal-breaker for EVERYONE. News flash--to many, many people, there are far more important factors to consider first.

Fantastic comment.

It's not about minimizing.  It's about the reality that it's not that big of a deal for many.



That obvious thing is a tool for now, they didnt prove the value of this thing in games .

Few gamers will buy xbox one for kinect.




sunkid : Preference, maybe, but if you are smart, you should not buy this now and wait for a price drop because the price is too high for what you get, except if you really want to play kinect mini games



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Jazz2K said:
RenCutypoison said:
Jazz2K said:
"When I buy a car, regardless of my needs and taste, all I consider is horsepower!"

If I said this for real people would go "WUT?!?" yes because it all depends on what you like and what you need. This resolution debacle is like a brainwashing propaganda to convince us that except for higher resolution nothing should be an incentive to buy a console.


"When I buy a TV, I take one more expensive with a lower resolution because she has a feature I like (and a nice color)" 

This happens a lot with almost every products. People fancy many things like color or decoration over performance. Just like cars. Ask women which they prefer, the car with their favorite color or the car with the more horse power?

You could go with the lesser resolution TV set because the other one has two hdmi, or because it comes with voice control, or because it has built in wifi etc... when I buy a product I consider the overall way before brand loyalty or like you point, resolution.


I always buy the product that has the more horsepower for the smaller price, be it smartphone, tv, or even a microwave oven.

That's probably just me.