Again, it wouldn't do anything for sales. My opinion. People don't buy consoles for these games, unless it's built a library up over the years and supplements the bigger games.

So yeah, they didn't need to have the indie aspect ready. Launching it during a slow period is a wise decision imo.

Why are you making as if MS planned this whole thing out?

Sony drastically changed their policies when it came to indies. MS didnt. This is the main reason why PS4 is getting all these ports. To claim that MS made a wise decision is crazy considering that they changed their policy a few months ago....

Because they have, whether it's a good idea to launch at the time they are is debateable. They said they always had the indie programme in development, and people act like MS have no history with indies, er they championed them more than anyone else 7/8 years ago.

Theres no ways they planned to not have some of the most popular steam games come out on the Xbone at luanch.

As far as I know MS has only been saying they have a plan for indies of late, after people complained. If you have proof that says otherwise then let me know I'll even take your word for it. And they have already changed the policy. If they had planned this all along then devs would have known earlier, Xbone would then have almost every indie game that PS4 has besides the ones that Sony are partly funding.

There is no ways devs would ignore the Xbox Live user base. I wont argue this further because you are suggesting that MS purposefully decided not to have these games come to Xbone at luanch.

Next gen will be very similar like this gen.

Sony always had, has and will have games with quality with quantity, variety and innovation. Proud to be a playstation fan.

As long as we are throwing around lists here ... there is a set of them people don't usually talk about on here or anywhere for that matter. Incidently, it is from the same place the op got the Xbox One and PS4 lists from:

List of Xbox 360 games         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games

Total: 958

Multiplatform: 759

Exclusive 120

Console exclusive: 79

List of Playstation 3 games    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_3_games

Total: 793

Multiplatform: 635

Exclusive: 149

Console exclusive: 9

Only about 30 or so more exclusive games on PS3 and slightly more (mostly games from Japan that were not ported in Japan to Xbox 360 because it is basically discontinued there). Then a massive 79 on 360 vs. 9 on PS3 difference in console exclusives. It is no wonder why some people try discredit console exclusives and argue that they don't count... Xbox 360 had a ton of them and Xbox One will likely have many as well ... maybe even more with how integrated it will be with Windows 8.

Also, these lists show that 360 and PS3 ended up with a roughly equal number of total games (at least when you factor in the year head start of the 360).

cool! more games the better

and how many of these 156 and 70 odd games are ones people will care about?

20?

I dont think so. Most of the games announced are coming within 1 year. PS4 will certainly have the edge with all the PC ports/indie/f2p games just like those games give PS4 the edge at launch.

Sony has built a goodwill with a lot of pc devs in the last 6 months. We will only see more pc devs working on PS4 from now on, just recently the Amnesia devs announced SOMA for PC/PS4.

Its not just about dev friendliness and talking big. Companies need to put the right policies in place that suites themselves, gamers and devs. There also needs to be a balance between these three. For the longest time console manufactures have been very bullish when it comes to indies...but steam and good competition has changed this attitude. I believe thats what caused sony to change there stance on self published games that dont cost the dev...every other gaming platform has it. Sony then decided to advertise there new found stance this gen and made the move at the right time to gain a huge advantage over ms with regards to dev support. Ms reacted way to late. I dont think they predicted sony would change stance though. 

I hate how the two companies are constantly reacting to each other. At times it can be good to remain competitive but in a way its also limiting to the teams working on thr platforms as you always find yourself following rather than leading. In that regard i give big props to nintendo for doing there own thing...although that doesnt always work out.