The Wii U didn't have over a million in preorders months before it launched.  Wii U had 500k at Gamestop the biggest gaming chain. Since Sony announced over a million pre-orders they have said they will produce more than that for people who havent preordered AND they have taken more preorders AND started accepting preorders in places like Japan. Ps4 will no doubt sell damn close to 2million first weeks aligned. Ps3 has been declining for a couple years now and will probably suffer its biggest yearly declines next year due to the new consoles. Of course I believe the Ps4 will outsell it.

the ps3 did 7.9mill it's first year (2007) the ps4 is coming with more hype, cheaper and with a weaker competition worst case the ps4 does around 8mill first year. Now ask yourself this do you really see the PS3 selling more than 8mill in 2014????

I think it's pretty well established the Wii U is in a deep hole. No need to beat a dead horse over and over and over again.

Take it from someone who actually lives here (japan), there is constant talk of PS4, not a single place offering ps4 preorders had any left within 12 hours of going live the second time, within 30 minuted the first time, I'm constantly seeing kids in the street talking about it, hearing coworkers I talk to in bars talk about it.

Not sure why you feel Japanese are some sort of unknown species that don't find games westerners play as 'fun' cannot count the number if times I've heard talk of knack, killzone and the order.

But hey, what would a Japanese person living in japan know about japan over someone who doesn't?

You must be living in Osaka. Everyone round my parts are very tepid.

People, the PS3 sold what it did because like the PS3 it was a cheaper blue -ray player than the rest of the market. The techies went after that shit hard.Had that new hardware feeling with the whole transfer to HDTV's( which took it a decent while to get moving)

Like the PS2. All the PS4 is connecting your TV to the internet and some meh launch games.

In the long run, the PS4 will do fine so long as it gets the games it needs , but we're talking right  here and right now.

Also 2 million ? Where do you get 2 million. Barely breaking 1 million so far.

GoW is clearly not on the same calibur as GTA in terms of sales/popularity. GTA 5 first weeks sales were over triple GoW 2 lifetimes sales.

Like I've clearly said.

And Wii is an exception, u said earlier we would likely never see a PS2 again well the same thing could be said for Wii, there will most likely never be a console with such enourmous demand as Wii had in its first 2-3 years.

No, its not an excpetion. PS2 was also destorying PS1

Also Genesis was outsold by NES in its early years. Saturn was being outsold by SNES and I believe even PS1 got off to a slow start with SNES outselling it initially. Dreamcast was outsold by PS1/N64 in 2000. PS1 sold better than GC/Xbox in 2002. PS2 sold better than PS3/360 in 2006 & 2007. It is very common for previous gen consoles to do better than next gen consoles at first.

Back this up with something because i doubt you'd know how consoles sales numbers and comparisons 20 years ago

No, it's not a cheap excuse at all and my point still stands completely.  The PS2 didn't have even remotely the support of big titles in its 8th year that the HD twins have whether you want to admit it or not.  And BTW, GOW 2 came early in its 7th year...

Finally, the Wii was the biggest front-loaded phenomenon the industry has ever seen regarding consoles.  That's common knowledge; I really didn't think that needed addressing.