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So this will be the definitive version now.



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Angelv577 said:
Metrium said:


Their is around 4mil WiiUs out there, how many of these 4mil WiiU owners also have a PS3and/orXbox360? Probably alot. I'd go as far as to say that it's probably half of them if not more. With the WiiU version offering less but costing the same price, why would any of these 2mil multiplat owners buy it on WiiU? They will all buy it on their other consoles. So out of these 4mil, take away half of them that will obviously buy it on other consoles thx to Ubisoft, and also take away those who are legimately not interested in the game, how many sales are left?

It's not that WiiU owners don't buy 3rd party games, it's that WiiU owners who most of them are multiplat owners buy 3rd party games on their other consoles for obvious reasons provided by those 3rd party publishers. Me for example, I'm a WiiU owner. Will Warner Bros get a WiiU version of Batman Origins from me? No, because I preordered the limited edition on PS3 cause WiiU not only did'nt have the limited edition as far as a know but also lacks the entire multiplayer mode. They will still get a sale from a WiiU owner but not the WiiU version since they are offering a subpar version. But offcaurse me buying it does'nt matter cause WB will obviously bitch and moan about WiiU owners not buying their games neverless.

Missing DLC it's not the same thing as missing a multiplayer mode, missing features or bad frame rate.  It's the same full game in every console with the same gameplay and probably almost the same performance.  The reality is there's is a minority who really buy DLC for games.  If peope really choose the ps3/ps4/360/one version over Wii U version, it would be for whatever reason except DLC, so if the game is destined to flop on Wii U, with or without DLC, it won't make a difference.  And if wii U owner would keep making excuses in every chance they have then don't complain when developers cease once and for all to develop for Wii U.  First years of ps3 owners were similar, always having the worst version of games with badly frame rate and ps3 owners still buy the games and look at now, 360/ps3 version looking almost the same.  The choice is simple, buy the version or don't have any version at all.


The difference with the WiiU and PS3 is that in 2007 ppl who had PS3 most of them was their only console. PS3 was so expensive, their competition the X360 was also quite expensive and only 1year old. Meanwhile with WiiU today, everyone has a PS3 or xbox360 since they are all cheaper and so old now. So ppl were buying PS3 games cause they did'nt have a choice, if the better versions of all games on ps3 were also available on other consoles that had a combined of 150mil units I doubt alot of Ps3 owners would have bought those games on PS3. Don't give me the argument that Ps3 gamers are better suporters of their consoles cause if that was the case games would'nt sell better on Xbox360.

And DLC does matter when their is nothing else to distinguish the versions. When I have two platforms available, both have the same price, both have the same content on the disc (altho ps3 has 1hour more) but only ONE of the two have DLC, I have no reasons what so ever to chose the WiiU version. I would be paying exactly the same amount of money for what is less, even if what is less does'nt matter to me it's still less. I almost never buy DLC, but who knows? What if I love the game way more than I thought I would and want more? What if they announce 1 piece of DLC that I must have cause I think it's awsome? I can't know for sure, so between paying 60$ for a disc with the option or 60$ for the same disc but w/o the option the choice is simple since despite not caring for DLC the WiiU version gives me nothing to balance the lack of DLC leaving a hole. If the game was 50$ instead of 60$ then now I would say that it evens things out but it's not.

You talk like it should be normal for ppl who have choices to choose the option of paying the same amount of money for less. But it's not.



 

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Metrium said:
Angelv577 said:
Metrium said:


Their is around 4mil WiiUs out there, how many of these 4mil WiiU owners also have a PS3and/orXbox360? Probably alot. I'd go as far as to say that it's probably half of them if not more. With the WiiU version offering less but costing the same price, why would any of these 2mil multiplat owners buy it on WiiU? They will all buy it on their other consoles. So out of these 4mil, take away half of them that will obviously buy it on other consoles thx to Ubisoft, and also take away those who are legimately not interested in the game, how many sales are left?

It's not that WiiU owners don't buy 3rd party games, it's that WiiU owners who most of them are multiplat owners buy 3rd party games on their other consoles for obvious reasons provided by those 3rd party publishers. Me for example, I'm a WiiU owner. Will Warner Bros get a WiiU version of Batman Origins from me? No, because I preordered the limited edition on PS3 cause WiiU not only did'nt have the limited edition as far as a know but also lacks the entire multiplayer mode. They will still get a sale from a WiiU owner but not the WiiU version since they are offering a subpar version. But offcaurse me buying it does'nt matter cause WB will obviously bitch and moan about WiiU owners not buying their games neverless.

Missing DLC it's not the same thing as missing a multiplayer mode, missing features or bad frame rate.  It's the same full game in every console with the same gameplay and probably almost the same performance.  The reality is there's is a minority who really buy DLC for games.  If peope really choose the ps3/ps4/360/one version over Wii U version, it would be for whatever reason except DLC, so if the game is destined to flop on Wii U, with or without DLC, it won't make a difference.  And if wii U owner would keep making excuses in every chance they have then don't complain when developers cease once and for all to develop for Wii U.  First years of ps3 owners were similar, always having the worst version of games with badly frame rate and ps3 owners still buy the games and look at now, 360/ps3 version looking almost the same.  The choice is simple, buy the version or don't have any version at all.


The difference with the WiiU and PS3 is that in 2007 ppl who had PS3 most of them was their only consoles. PS3 was so expensive, their competition the X360 was also quite expensive and only 1year old. Meanwhile with WiiU today, everyone has a PS3 or xbox360 since they are all cheaper and so old now. So ppl were buying PS3 games cause they did'nt have a choice, if the better versions of all games on ps3 were also available on other consoles that had a combined of 150mil units I doubt alot of Ps3 owners would have bought those games on PS3. Don't give me the argument that Ps3 gamers are better suporters of their consoles cause if that was the case games would'nt sell better on Xbox360.

And DLC does matter when their is nothing else to distinguish the versions. When I have two platforms available, both have the same price, both have the same content on the disc (altho ps3 has 1hour more) but only ONE of the two have DLC, I have no reasons what so ever to chose the WiiU version. I would be paying exactly the same amount of money for what is less, even if what is less does'nt matter to me it's still less. I almost never buy DLC, but who knows? What if I love the game way more than I thought I would and want more? What if they announce 1 piece of DLC that I must have cause I think it's awsome? I can't know for sure, so between paying 60$ for disc with the option or 60$ for the same disc but w/o the option the choice is simple since despite not caring for DLC the WiiU version gives me nothing to balance the lack of DLC leaving a hole. If the game was 50$ instead of 60$ then now I would say that it evens things out but it's not.

You talk like it should be normal for ppl who have choices to choose the option of paying the same for less. But it's not.


nothing else to distinguish it. 

...well that's settled then.  even nintendo fans don't think the wiiU gamepad improves the gaming experience.



I'm seeing quite a few people missing the point. I don't think this is about this game not getting DLC. It's about Wii U constantly getting games that are in one way or another gimped, overpriced, missing features, or inferior in one way or another to what its competitors get.

It seems to be an unwritten rule that whenever a multiplat comes out, the Wii U version -needs- to miss something, anything at all, that the other versions do have. Even when a game does offer some form of advantage on Wii U, there's -always- another thing that drags it down.

It's not simply about one or a few games missing a thing here and there. That wouldn't matter. But when a potential buyer looks at available games and none of the multiplats are up to snuff compared to other consoles, then that most certainly doesn't offer much of an incentive to buy.
Seeing how much of an outcry a missing feature/game creates when it happens to Wii U's competitors (look at Injustice not coming to 360 for a recent example), then I think Nintendo gamers' reactions to constantly getting the lesser games isn't bad at all.

- Rayman? Let's delay it 7 months.
- Deus Ex? Let's make the Wii U version $20 more expensive.
- Batman Arkham Origins? Wii U don't need no online!
- Splinter Cell? Forget about offline co-op.
- ACIV? Let's not do DLC.
- Injustice? Let's not bother at all.
- FIFA 14? Nah. (3DS? We'll give that a repackaged version of last year's repackaged version of FIFA 12).
- Mass Effect 3? Full price, but we'll give PS360 a trilogy for less.

... Well I could go on, but the point ought to be clear. It's the consistency with which it happens, continually and constantly. All the time.



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kitler53 said:
Metrium said:


The difference with the WiiU and PS3 is that in 2007 ppl who had PS3 most of them was their only consoles. PS3 was so expensive, their competition the X360 was also quite expensive and only 1year old. Meanwhile with WiiU today, everyone has a PS3 or xbox360 since they are all cheaper and so old now. So ppl were buying PS3 games cause they did'nt have a choice, if the better versions of all games on ps3 were also available on other consoles that had a combined of 150mil units I doubt alot of Ps3 owners would have bought those games on PS3. Don't give me the argument that Ps3 gamers are better suporters of their consoles cause if that was the case games would'nt sell better on Xbox360.

And DLC does matter when their is nothing else to distinguish the versions. When I have two platforms available, both have the same price, both have the same content on the disc (altho ps3 has 1hour more) but only ONE of the two have DLC, I have no reasons what so ever to chose the WiiU version. I would be paying exactly the same amount of money for what is less, even if what is less does'nt matter to me it's still less. I almost never buy DLC, but who knows? What if I love the game way more than I thought I would and want more? What if they announce 1 piece of DLC that I must have cause I think it's awsome? I can't know for sure, so between paying 60$ for disc with the option or 60$ for the same disc but w/o the option the choice is simple since despite not caring for DLC the WiiU version gives me nothing to balance the lack of DLC leaving a hole. If the game was 50$ instead of 60$ then now I would say that it evens things out but it's not.

You talk like it should be normal for ppl who have choices to choose the option of paying the same for less. But it's not.


nothing else to distinguish it. 

...well that's settled then.  even nintendo fans don't think the wiiU gamepad improves the gaming experience.

Except playing on the gamepad screen, not for 3rd party games who does'nt give crap no.

Do I like having my map on my screen w/o having to pause or playing on my game pad while watching TV? Yes I do.Does it matter? Enough for me to buy the WiiU version when both version are equal. But do I like these features enough to not care paying 60$ for subpar content and services? No.



 

What?! I can't hear you over all this awsome! - Pyrrhon (Kid Icarus:Uprising)

Final Ultimate Legendary Earth Power Super Max Justice Future Miracle Dream Beautiful Galaxy Big Bang Little Bang Sunrise Starlight Infinite Fabulous Totally Final Wonderful Arrow...FIRE! - Wonder-Red (The Wonderful101)

 

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I think Wii U won't get better 3rd party sales because everybody can get even better version from PS4/Xbone or from PC for even cheap. There is nothing from Wii U to separate from other version and also its inferior version of PS4/Xbone/PC and little better than PS3/360. Nintendo should have used architecture similar to PS4/Xbone if they wanted good 3rd party support.



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So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

biglittlesps said:
I think Wii U won't get better 3rd party sales because everybody can get even better version from PS4/Xbone or from PC for even cheap. There is nothing from Wii U to separate from other version and also its inferior version of PS4/Xbone/PC and little better than PS3/360. Nintendo should have used architecture similar to PS4/Xbone if they wanted good 3rd party support.

Like that would have worked. Nobody remembers GameCube at all, do they?

The only acceptable narrative is that third parties have it out for Nintendo. Full stop.



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KylieDog said:
Just the excuse Nintendo fans need when the game fails to sell. The same fans that called CoD sales on Wii proof third parties games can sell, despite missing the DLC.

They need excuses?



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- George Orwell, ‘1984’

vita got massive hate for having only gimped versions of console games, so i demand the wiiu gets even more hate for this.

seriously: missing dlc should be no problem. it is just another excuse for you people to not buy the game. boooh they gave me the gimped version, so i will boycott it! bohooo they delayed the game, so i will boycott it!

i thought people don't care that much for DLC. but yeah. once other people get what you don't get you feel like being fooled. but le'ts be honest, a nintendo console is for nintendo games. they are too strong to have succesful first party support. nintendo knows that and the first parties know that.



must-have-list for platforms i don't own yet:

WiiU: Donkey Kong

XBone: Dead Rising 3, Ryse

Cheebee said:

I'm seeing quite a few people missing the point. I don't think this is about this game not getting DLC. It's about Wii U constantly getting games that are in one way or another gimped, overpriced, missing features, or inferior in one way or another to what its competitors get.

It seems to be an unwritten rule that whenever a multiplat comes out, the Wii U version -needs- to miss something, anything at all, that the other versions do have. Even when a game does offer some form of advantage on Wii U, there's -always- another thing that drags it down.

It's not simply about one or a few games missing a thing here and there. That wouldn't matter. But when a potential buyer looks at available games and none of the multiplats are up to snuff compared to other consoles, then that most certainly doesn't offer much of an incentive to buy.
Seeing how much of an outcry a missing feature/game creates when it happens to Wii U's competitors (look at Injustice not coming to 360 for a recent example), then I think Nintendo gamers' reactions to constantly getting the lesser games isn't bad at all.

- Rayman? Let's delay it 7 months.
- Deus Ex? Let's make the Wii U version $20 more expensive.
- Batman Arkham Origins? Wii U don't need no online!
- Splinter Cell? Forget about offline co-op.
- ACIV? Let's not do DLC.
- Injustice? Let's not bother at all.
- FIFA 14? Nah. (3DS? We'll give that a repackaged version of last year's repackaged version of FIFA 12).
- Mass Effect 3? Full price, but we'll give PS360 a trilogy for less.

... Well I could go on, but the point ought to be clear. It's the consistency with which it happens, continually and constantly. All the time.

third partys want to get rid of nintendo once and for all.



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