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selnor1983 said:
phinch1 said:
selnor1983 said:
phinch1 said:
its a good move, for micorsoft, not for me, I dont want the dam camera, if i want a xbone im being forced to buy the perhiperal.......I would never! use it so as the consumer its not giving me personally any benifit, for those who want it, yes its great

Its not a Peripheral if its part of Xbox One.

Same way Wii Nunchuck wasnt a peripheral.

Its cool if you dont want to by into Xbox One ( everyone forgets its called One because its trying to be more than a games machine ).

But Kinect 2.0 is Xbox One.

do i need that camera to play gta/call of duty? in what way does that benifit me playing those games, its doesnt, it isnt needed, its a perhiperal, if i was into games that involved a camera, or i wanted to skypre, then sure id need it and then go buy the perhiperal (optionally).....but I dont want/need it, so why do i have to purchase the console at a higer price because they want me to have it, its not a nessecity

What logic is that?

Do you need Wii Nunchuck to play or Wii U tablet to play Mass Effect 3, Batman, etc etc. If I wanted to play touch or wave gaming Id have bought it for my Wii/ Wii U seperately.

See the logic here?

A peripheral is an after thought idea which is an add on.

Xbox One is as it is. Kinect 2.0 is not an add on and not a peripheral.

Xbox One is not Xbox 360 or PS3.


and thats why they have lost a sale from me, aaaaand many others



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selnor1983 said:
phinch1 said:
selnor1983 said:
phinch1 said:
its a good move, for micorsoft, not for me, I dont want the dam camera, if i want a xbone im being forced to buy the perhiperal.......I would never! use it so as the consumer its not giving me personally any benifit, for those who want it, yes its great

Its not a Peripheral if its part of Xbox One.

Same way Wii Nunchuck wasnt a peripheral.

Its cool if you dont want to by into Xbox One ( everyone forgets its called One because its trying to be more than a games machine ).

But Kinect 2.0 is Xbox One.

do i need that camera to play gta/call of duty? in what way does that benifit me playing those games, its doesnt, it isnt needed, its a perhiperal, if i was into games that involved a camera, or i wanted to skypre, then sure id need it and then go buy the perhiperal (optionally).....but I dont want/need it, so why do i have to purchase the console at a higer price because they want me to have it, its not a nessecity

What logic is that?

Do you need Wii Nunchuck to play or Wii U tablet to play Mass Effect 3, Batman, etc etc. If I wanted to play touch or wave gaming Id have bought it for my Wii/ Wii U seperately.

See the logic here?

A peripheral is an after thought idea which is an add on.

Xbox One is as it is. Kinect 2.0 is not an add on and not a peripheral.

Xbox One is not Xbox 360 or PS3.

If you can unplug it put it in a draw and never have to use it ever its a peripheral. 



phinch1 said:
selnor1983 said:
phinch1 said:
selnor1983 said:
phinch1 said:
its a good move, for micorsoft, not for me, I dont want the dam camera, if i want a xbone im being forced to buy the perhiperal.......I would never! use it so as the consumer its not giving me personally any benifit, for those who want it, yes its great

Its not a Peripheral if its part of Xbox One.

Same way Wii Nunchuck wasnt a peripheral.

Its cool if you dont want to by into Xbox One ( everyone forgets its called One because its trying to be more than a games machine ).

But Kinect 2.0 is Xbox One.

do i need that camera to play gta/call of duty? in what way does that benifit me playing those games, its doesnt, it isnt needed, its a perhiperal, if i was into games that involved a camera, or i wanted to skypre, then sure id need it and then go buy the perhiperal (optionally).....but I dont want/need it, so why do i have to purchase the console at a higer price because they want me to have it, its not a nessecity

What logic is that?

Do you need Wii Nunchuck to play or Wii U tablet to play Mass Effect 3, Batman, etc etc. If I wanted to play touch or wave gaming Id have bought it for my Wii/ Wii U seperately.

See the logic here?

A peripheral is an after thought idea which is an add on.

Xbox One is as it is. Kinect 2.0 is not an add on and not a peripheral.

Xbox One is not Xbox 360 or PS3.


and thats why they have lost a sale from me, aaaaand many others

Thats fine. Im sure there are plenty of people who will love the Xbox One and love its very different features. It can hardly really be sold as a games machine. Especially considering Windows  is part of it.

The reason I wont buy a PS4 is because apart from visuals nothing else screams Im not a PS3.5. Thats My opinion. But Im not begging Sony to add an Operating system or Add the Eye with every PS4 so I know it will get support?

Microsoft are offering me a package much more suited to me and many others. Im into more than just games. I dont personally feel Sony gets that. And I have been shifting away from using  PC altogether now for a few years. The sooner I dont have a desktop or laptop the better.



We'll see what the mass will say about that with their wallets.



Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:
phinch1 said:
selnor1983 said:
phinch1 said:
its a good move, for micorsoft, not for me, I dont want the dam camera, if i want a xbone im being forced to buy the perhiperal.......I would never! use it so as the consumer its not giving me personally any benifit, for those who want it, yes its great

Its not a Peripheral if its part of Xbox One.

Same way Wii Nunchuck wasnt a peripheral.

Its cool if you dont want to by into Xbox One ( everyone forgets its called One because its trying to be more than a games machine ).

But Kinect 2.0 is Xbox One.

do i need that camera to play gta/call of duty? in what way does that benifit me playing those games, its doesnt, it isnt needed, its a perhiperal, if i was into games that involved a camera, or i wanted to skypre, then sure id need it and then go buy the perhiperal (optionally).....but I dont want/need it, so why do i have to purchase the console at a higer price because they want me to have it, its not a nessecity

What logic is that?

Do you need Wii Nunchuck to play or Wii U tablet to play Mass Effect 3, Batman, etc etc. If I wanted to play touch or wave gaming Id have bought it for my Wii/ Wii U seperately.

See the logic here?

A peripheral is an after thought idea which is an add on.

Xbox One is as it is. Kinect 2.0 is not an add on and not a peripheral.

Xbox One is not Xbox 360 or PS3.

If you can unplug it put it in a draw and never have to use it ever its a peripheral. 

So by your logic. Everything is a peripheral. EVERYTHING



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fatslob-:O said:
We'll see what the mass will say about that with their wallets.



So far its good news for Microsoft.

400% more preorders than Xbox 360. And now unavailable till January 6th in UK. Phase 4 only available now.



Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:
phinch1 said:
selnor1983 said:
phinch1 said:
its a good move, for micorsoft, not for me, I dont want the dam camera, if i want a xbone im being forced to buy the perhiperal.......I would never! use it so as the consumer its not giving me personally any benifit, for those who want it, yes its great

Its not a Peripheral if its part of Xbox One.

Same way Wii Nunchuck wasnt a peripheral.

Its cool if you dont want to by into Xbox One ( everyone forgets its called One because its trying to be more than a games machine ).

But Kinect 2.0 is Xbox One.

do i need that camera to play gta/call of duty? in what way does that benifit me playing those games, its doesnt, it isnt needed, its a perhiperal, if i was into games that involved a camera, or i wanted to skypre, then sure id need it and then go buy the perhiperal (optionally).....but I dont want/need it, so why do i have to purchase the console at a higer price because they want me to have it, its not a nessecity

What logic is that?

Do you need Wii Nunchuck to play or Wii U tablet to play Mass Effect 3, Batman, etc etc. If I wanted to play touch or wave gaming Id have bought it for my Wii/ Wii U seperately.

See the logic here?

A peripheral is an after thought idea which is an add on.

Xbox One is as it is. Kinect 2.0 is not an add on and not a peripheral.

Xbox One is not Xbox 360 or PS3.

If you can unplug it put it in a draw and never have to use it ever its a peripheral. 


Exactly this! it would never be used by me, therefor a waste of money

if my girlfriend decides to buy a family fun orientated game, then she can buy a camera for the ps4.



selnor1983 said:
fatslob-:O said:
We'll see what the mass will say about that with their wallets.



So far its good news for Microsoft.

400% more preorders than Xbox 360. And now unavailable till January 6th in UK. Phase 4 only available now.

The real test for both of them is post launch window plus I don't think people are going to be too happy about that price tag and what's more is that the majority will not immediately be jumping pretty soon.



Kinect is essentially this generations "Blu-ray" drive.

Sony was trying to use Blu-ray in PS3 to sort of work as a "Livingroom box" type situation, and they pretty much failed.

Kinect is the Backbone behind the Xbox one as the "All in one" living room system. Where you connect everything through it and it works great to manage all your home entertainment. Whether it's a smart move or not in my opinion depends on if it sells like a console (probably not) or sells to a lot of people for non console reasons



phinch1 said:
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:
phinch1 said:
selnor1983 said:
phinch1 said:
its a good move, for micorsoft, not for me, I dont want the dam camera, if i want a xbone im being forced to buy the perhiperal.......I would never! use it so as the consumer its not giving me personally any benifit, for those who want it, yes its great

Its not a Peripheral if its part of Xbox One.

Same way Wii Nunchuck wasnt a peripheral.

Its cool if you dont want to by into Xbox One ( everyone forgets its called One because its trying to be more than a games machine ).

But Kinect 2.0 is Xbox One.

do i need that camera to play gta/call of duty? in what way does that benifit me playing those games, its doesnt, it isnt needed, its a perhiperal, if i was into games that involved a camera, or i wanted to skypre, then sure id need it and then go buy the perhiperal (optionally).....but I dont want/need it, so why do i have to purchase the console at a higer price because they want me to have it, its not a nessecity

What logic is that?

Do you need Wii Nunchuck to play or Wii U tablet to play Mass Effect 3, Batman, etc etc. If I wanted to play touch or wave gaming Id have bought it for my Wii/ Wii U seperately.

See the logic here?

A peripheral is an after thought idea which is an add on.

Xbox One is as it is. Kinect 2.0 is not an add on and not a peripheral.

Xbox One is not Xbox 360 or PS3.

If you can unplug it put it in a draw and never have to use it ever its a peripheral. 


Exactly this! it would never be used by me, therefor a waste of money

if my girlfriend decides to buy a family fun orientated game, then she can buy a camera for the ps4.

Not if you unplug your peripheral PS4 and put it in the draw. What crazy logic do you guys use to allow yourselves to prove Microsoft will do a Kinectless SKU?

Kinect 2.0 is Xbox One. Its built directly into the motherboard of Xbox One. The console part is as much of Kinect as the camera is.

Whats the matter with logic here????????????