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walsufnir said:


Well, the question is: when do you really play? But relax man, it was meant in a funny way. We are a games-site, we share the same hobby, so let's all have fun together. But really, it is not the gameplay why people buy this game.

I hope nobody defending this game will never ever say anything about Ryse's gameplay! NEVER!

ryse and Beyond are trying to achieve different things. People who buy beyond should know what to expect before buying it. Which is Heavy Rain/Walking dead type controls. Same with Ryse but that should be smooth hack n slash gameplay/controls.



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walsufnir said:


Well, the question is: when do you really play? But relax man, it was meant in a funny way. We are a games-site, we share the same hobby, so let's all have fun together. But really, it is not the gameplay why people buy this game.

I hope nobody defending this game will never ever say anything about Ryse's gameplay! NEVER!

But Ryse focuses on gameplay while this doesn't, so I don't get your point? That said, I think Ryse is at least shaping up better than the initial reveal, which looked boring and monotonous as hell.



Max King of the Wild said:
walsufnir said:


Well, the question is: when do you really play? But relax man, it was meant in a funny way. We are a games-site, we share the same hobby, so let's all have fun together. But really, it is not the gameplay why people buy this game.

I hope nobody defending this game will never ever say anything about Ryse's gameplay! NEVER!

ryse and Beyond are trying to achieve different things. People who buy beyond should know what to expect before buying it. Which is Heavy Rain/Walking dead type controls. Same with Ryse but that should be smooth hack n slash gameplay/controls.

Millions of people should know what to expect? Sorry but this is again extrapolating your personal knowledge to a way too big audience and wrong. Many people will buy it because of the advertising and the graphics and buzz around it.



walsufnir said:
UltimateUnknown said:

Admittedly I haven't played this game, but from what I've seen/heard, it kind of reminds me of Lair. An interactive movie as opposed to a video game. Perhaps the interaction is a bit more than Lair and the story being told is more complex, but it is still more of a cinematic experience that just has some interaction to it.

I feel as though this shouldn't be called a "game" in the traditional sense, because after all, as the name suggests, a "game" is defined by its "gameplay", which should be the primary focus. The storytelling should be done through the gameplay or in segments within it, rather than the other way around. Perhaps this concept would have done better if released as a complete theatrical experience. But it's kind of stuck in this limbo where it feels like the developers didn't know whether to make it a movie or a game. Telling us that this is a "gaming" experience when its actually not may have lead to the disappointment.


The good thing is, we can play it via youtube. And don't have to pay for it

HAHA LOL that's so true.

But you see, that's where the problem is for the developer. For this kind of experience where its not clear whether its a game or a movie, both sides come out disappointed: gamers and movie watchers.

For movie watchers, paying £40/$60 for a movie is downright atrocious, even if it has some some interactive elements.

For gamers, paying £40/$60 for a game that has very little gameplay when compared to the standard we have come to expect, it just seems like a bad choice.

So neither side wins unfortunately.



 

Hyruken said:
bubblegamer said:
Hyruken said:
More of a film than a game by the looks of it. £40 for a film? Think I will pass...


Even IF it was a movie, it would stil be worth it. A gazillion people, inclusing me, paid 20 pounds for the Dark Knight Rises on Bluray and that was 2 hours long. So why would this one, with a much longer story not be worth it? Maybe because you're just biased!?


How am I biased?! I have not played it so can't be either for or against it....I am not going to praise something that I have not experienced and likewise I am not going to bash it.

But based on the reviews I think it is pretty clear to say it is more of a film than a game. Nearly every review mentions it. 

As a huge Heavy Rain fan (check my trophies) I was 'hoping' for something a bit like that. The ability to make decisions that shape the story, with the same level of interaction. 

The game has a lot of cut scenes, but so do other games. The Final Fantasy series and Metal Gear series have them. But beyond the cut scenes there is also an actual game to play with vasts amounts of things to do. This 'game' looks different in that it really isn't a game beyond the cut scenes. 

For the price you could get a lot of Blu-Rays, you could buy the lord of the rings extended editions and alien anthology. 7 films which I am sure add up to more than 12 hours.

Like I said paying £40 for pretty much a film you might not even like seems a tad too much. But hey that is my opinion.

Do you think its fair to go off of price of movies that came out over a decade ago to a game that launched today....



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...so I visited David at QD's office in Paris, shared my honest feedback with Beyond, reassured how much I'm excited with his next project

 



walsufnir said:

Millions of people should know what to expect? Sorry but this is again extrapolating your personal knowledge to a way too big audience and wrong. Many people will buy it because of the advertising and the graphics and buzz around it.

Yes, I am a firm believer that when you want to plop down a wad of cash on something you should be informed on what the product is before you do. If you don't inform yourself and spend money on something you don't enjoy it isn't the people who created it's fault



ishiki said:

Jim sterlings review is really bad... Again. I don't think I'm going to like this game, and id give heavy rain like a 6. Edges review giving it the same score is a lot better.

But it feels like he's excited to be so negative. And he contradicts himself a few times in regard to the cast, etc. He does this a lot he's overly positive or overly negative depending if it's his type of thing or not. And with this game it's a increased because of his dislike of David Cage.


Except that Jim Sterling likes Heavy Rain(he gave it a 7) and he really liked Indigo Prophecy.



Max King of the Wild said:
walsufnir said:

Millions of people should know what to expect? Sorry but this is again extrapolating your personal knowledge to a way too big audience and wrong. Many people will buy it because of the advertising and the graphics and buzz around it.

Yes, I am a firm believer that when you want to plop down a wad of cash on something you should be informed on what the product is before you do. If you don't inform yourself and spend money on something you don't enjoy it isn't the people who created it's fault


Spotted the important word. Really, that's not how it works. It should but it's not the way it is.



Wright said:
Euphoria14 said:

Ah, I see. Here I thought kids watched movies too.


Thought wrong. Kids are too busy with their smartphones nowadays.

You are correct sir, but that still doesn't stop my daughter from sitting there and watching me play games all while trying to tell me what to do next.

 

During the BEYOND demo she was all like "Oh no! They have the cars there daddy! JUMP!" during the getaway segment on the motorcycle.



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