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Forums - Gaming - Vgchartz has links to illegal roms?? [pirates in this thread]

osed125 on 02 October 2013

morenoingrato said:

and some EA games ;).

Good job soldier.



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walsufnir on 02 October 2013

Without "illegal" roms I would've never played Seiken 3 or Tales of Phantasia on Snes!



Barozi on 02 October 2013
Turkish said:
Barozi said:

And you know his country's laws ?

It's certainly not illegal everywhere. Especially something as old as Atari 2600 roms (and others obviously).


I assume the laws in his country are pretty much the same like in every other country. I find it very strange that vgchartz has links to a site offering illegal stuff. Its ironic that the sales page of DS games have links to illegal roms, like Pokemon Black/White http://www.vgchartz.com/game/44573/pokemon-black-white-version/

I hope the sales on that page aren't extrapolated from the amount of downloads these roms gather???

Except that part might be important. Copyright law is not the same in every country, not even amongst European nations.




impertinence on 02 October 2013

Piracy is inexcusable. Anyone trying to rationalize that it is not theft are not honest enough with themselves to accept what they really are.



NightDragon83 on 02 October 2013
impertinence said:
Piracy is inexcusable. Anyone trying to rationalize that it is not theft are not honest enough with themselves to accept what they really are.

People really need to stop throwing around the term "piracy" when it comes to downloading stuff off the internet.  Downloading a digital copy of a videogame or a movie that has been long out of production is not the same thing as illegally cracking and / or leaking software, music, movies etc. that are current or haven't even been released yet.  And nobody is making money off of the downloading of old ROM files from defunct game consoles, whereas actual pirates like those who sell bootleg DVDs or CDs on the streets are.

And a big part of the PC gaming industry is the dedication to mods / homebrew versions of both current and classic games, which is not possible without uploading and downloading the necessary ROMs and image files over the internet.  Should the folks responsible for Counter Strike and Portal for example be thrown in jail for tinkering with copyrighted software and then subsequently sharing it with millions of other people for free?  Or how about gamers who made fan translations of Japan-only games like Mother 3... should they be tossed into the slammer as well?



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impertinence on 03 October 2013
NightDragon83 said:
impertinence said:
Piracy is inexcusable. Anyone trying to rationalize that it is not theft are not honest enough with themselves to accept what they really are.

People really need to stop throwing around the term "piracy" when it comes to downloading stuff off the internet.  Downloading a digital copy of a videogame or a movie that has been long out of production is not the same thing as illegally cracking and / or leaking software, music, movies etc. that are current or haven't even been released yet.  And nobody is making money off of the downloading of old ROM files from defunct game consoles, whereas actual pirates like those who sell bootleg DVDs or CDs on the streets are.

And a big part of the PC gaming industry is the dedication to mods / homebrew versions of both current and classic games, which is not possible without uploading and downloading the necessary ROMs and image files over the internet.  Should the folks responsible for Counter Strike and Portal for example be thrown in jail for tinkering with copyrighted software and then subsequently sharing it with millions of other people for free?  Or how about gamers who made fan translations of Japan-only games like Mother 3... should they be tossed into the slammer as well?


For anyone interested, the post quoted above is a great example of the often used fallacy called a strawman argument