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This is EXACTLY what has been previously announced.

Why are so many people shocked by this lol?



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JoeTheBro said:

This is EXACTLY what has been previously announced.

Why are so many people shocked by this lol?

The Xi3 Pistion is not an Steam Machine or the rumored Steambox.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/steam/Xi3_Piston



richardhutnik said:
JoeTheBro said:

This is EXACTLY what has been previously announced.

Why are so many people shocked by this lol?

The Xi3 Pistion is not an Steam Machine or the rumored Steambox.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/steam/Xi3_Piston

It is exactly a Steam Machine. What OS do you think it runs?



adriane23 said:
theprof00 said:
adriane23 said:
Multiple machines with multiple prices and multiple levels of performance. I just don't see the point. This just sounds like any other pre-made gaming PC, but with the Steam OS.

The steam OS is designed to give as much performance to games as possible. Makes sense, despite different hardware.

Yeah, I know. And if you can put the Steam OS on any computer, I don't see the point of buying a Steam Machine over building one yourself, which will always be the cheaper route unless the manufacturer eats some of the cost like console manufacturers do.

Maybe something to do with preloaded drivers? Don't know.



JoeTheBro said:
richardhutnik said:
JoeTheBro said:

This is EXACTLY what has been previously announced.

Why are so many people shocked by this lol?

The Xi3 Pistion is not an Steam Machine or the rumored Steambox.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/steam/Xi3_Piston

It is exactly a Steam Machine. What OS do you think it runs?


Windows. http://kotaku.com/5990254/piston-makers-we-were-asked-to-build-a-product-specifically-for-valve

"Contrary to Valve's vision, Xi3 believes that the way to take this to market today is to do so with a Windows OS at the core"

This is why it isn't a Steam Machine. It was going to be, but Xi3 backed out. It does give an insight into what the Steam Machines will actually be like though.



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It's a very solid idea, and certainly bound to be better/more successful than the joke that is Ouya.

But people thinking the "Steambox" is going to take over the home console market are sadly way off base.



DevilRising said:
It's a very solid idea, and certainly bound to be better/more successful than the joke that is Ouya.

But people thinking the "Steambox" is going to take over the home console market are sadly way off base.

Systems like OUYA, which are Android based, and Steam Machines, are going to be battling it out for this marketspace.  And this marketspace definitely has a chance to run into the space of the ONE and PS4... and also the PC market for that matter.

As far as the OUYA goes, it does the job for me, for the most part.  Of course I am retro gaming here.



ListerOfSmeg said:
Well one benift will be that you wont waste resources that could be used for gaming on the OS. This will mean lesser powered systems will be able to play games that they once might not have been able to. That will depend on the size of the OS though and how much of your resources it needs.

Do developers pay MS for making games for windows? That could also make it cheaper

*sigh* There is no waste of ressources so that you can use lower powered systems for gettint the same performance. Especially not the *size* of the os...



Dark_Feanor said:
pezus said:
Dark_Feanor said:
This is a bold (desperated??) move from Valve to save PC gaming.

They will change so the things stays the same. Many hardware configuations, yearly upgrades, customisation...

Sorry, I can´t see a game changer. Not in the big market, not in mass production and advertising. May be if NVidia joins in. Or Samsung or LG.

Save PC gaming? Lol, you must be joking


No, I´m not.

If the PC market is OK, and with growing perspective in sight, why the hell Valve is trying this?

Why Microsoft has the Xbox and Surface in the first place?  PC gaming is a nicht market, for enthusiasts. 

I´m speaking for me: this year is the last year a will use PC other than working (and may be porn). I will finish the last 10 games I bought at Steam Store. And I won´t ever buy a game that I could not play right away. 

Microsoft or Sony will have to screw up really bad in pricing and services for me to quite the convenience of a console + a tablet.


Your opinion doesn't equate to market reality or everybody else.

PC gaming is also not a niche market only for enthusiasts, one of the best selling franchises (The Sims) has 150 million copies sold, Diablo 3 PC has outsold the console versions, Minecraft has outsold the console versions, there are 50+ million people who use Steam, 30+ million who use Origin, 10's of million of people a day play League of Legends and Dota 2.
The PC gaming Market is also 20 Billion bucks large, the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 combined is 15.5 Billion bucks.

The SteamOS has the potential to be stupidly massive, if and I must stress the if... The hardware manufacturers get behind it.

Imagine every device you own and they all have one thing in common: SteamOS.
You could then have a singular powerfull Desktop that does all the rendering of your games at superior levels of image quality than any other platform could possibly hope to achieve and stream it to any device in your home.
The potential there is stupidly massive, if a phone manufacturer decides to include SteamOS? then your phone could have the power of a Desktop PC (Like mine!) in a device that fits into your hand, playing games with better image quality than the next generation, current generation, previous generation and even the generation before that consoles combined rendering power.

The advantage of this approach is... You don't need a powerfull or expensive console, phone or tablet for improvements in graphics fidelity for your games.
Heck, you could mod an Origional Xbox, potentially throw SteamOS on it and play games with better image quality than the Playstation 4, that's the kind of potential that SteamOS can bring to the gaming market.
Could you imagine never having to need to buy another Console again? Or a better Tablet to keep up with new games?

Whether Valve will be successfull or not still remains to be seen, but it certainly has the potential to completely change the entire gaming industry.




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Pemalite said:

Your opinion doesn't equate to market reality or everybody else.

PC gaming is also not a niche market only for enthusiasts, one of the best selling franchises (The Sims) has 150 million copies sold, Diablo 3 PC has outsold the console versions, Minecraft has outsold the console versions, there are 50+ million people who use Steam, 30+ million who use Origin, 10's of million of people a day play League of Legends and Dota 2.
The PC gaming Market is also 20 Billion bucks large, the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 combined is 15.5 Billion bucks.

The SteamOS has the potential to be stupidly massive, if and I must stress the if... The hardware manufacturers get behind it.

They have been. by default, going to Android as a solution.  So now, they have an alternative.  I believe a range of manufacturers will get behind it, because it is a cheaper solution than Windows.  My concern has been whether or not major development studios will line up behind it, and produce the same content, and do exclusives.  I can see Valve doing what it can, making its IP exclusive to SteamOS in regards to consoles, which will help.