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Baalzamon said:
I make like 12 to 15k a year yet make ends meet with my only "subsidy" being that I pay a low tax rate. I still buy games, expensive phones, build new computers, go to the bars with friends, yet apparently somebody of my status needs food stamps and every other subsidy?

Where in the US do you live???

If you don't mind me asking...



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MDMAlliance said:
fatslob-:O said:
Baalzamon said:
Just no. Less free money will convince people to do something with their life. Not to mention...if these programs are being cut, why are more people sucking money out of them now than ever.

That is why socialism never succeeds in becoming the bigger country.


Not exactly sure what you're saying.  Are you saying Socialist countries do not grow, or that Socialist countries are not among the top?  Either way, that's wrong.  

Or, technically.  Democratic Socialism is a thing, and Germany is a major economic power as well as being a Democratic Socialist state.  

It's still not the beast compared to the US or China. I'm just saying that capitalism is better for progression purposes.



fatslob-:O said:
MDMAlliance said:

Not exactly sure what you're saying.  Are you saying Socialist countries do not grow, or that Socialist countries are not among the top?  Either way, that's wrong.  

Or, technically.  Democratic Socialism is a thing, and Germany is a major economic power as well as being a Democratic Socialist state.  

It's still not the beast compared to the US or China. I'm just saying that capitalism is better for progression purposes.

The United States and China are not Capitalist states.  Part of the reason China became such an economic power has to do with their population.



Central MN. Really the only expense that would be higher in the nearest big cities (twin cities) is rent though. Id still make ends meet easily on same budget.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

Baalzamon said:
Central MN. Really the only expense that would be higher in the nearest big cities (twin cities) is rent though. Id still make ends meet easily on same budget.


What kind of job are you working that you only get paid 12-15k a year?  



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MDMAlliance said:
fatslob-:O said:
MDMAlliance said:

Not exactly sure what you're saying.  Are you saying Socialist countries do not grow, or that Socialist countries are not among the top?  Either way, that's wrong.  

Or, technically.  Democratic Socialism is a thing, and Germany is a major economic power as well as being a Democratic Socialist state.  

It's still not the beast compared to the US or China. I'm just saying that capitalism is better for progression purposes.

The United States and China are not Capitalist states.  Part of the reason China became such an economic power has to do with their population.

Last I check the way that they both do business is pretty much a capitalist system. They both do the whole free enterprise system. If a part of the reason why China became an economic power was because of a population then why isn't india having the same affect ?



fatslob-:O said:
Baalzamon said:
Just no. Less free money will convince people to do something with their life. Not to mention...if these programs are being cut, why are more people sucking money out of them now than ever.

That is why socialism never succeeds in becoming the bigger country.

People that think like you amazes me. We buy one plane for 1 billion dollars(B-2 bombers) almost every year and it cost millions to maintain the fleet.

Military industry and other corporations get obscene corporate welfare and you are worried that people might benefice from our money instead of oligarchs.

Corporate welfare is around $100 billion and Social is not even close to that. The money people get for social welfare is very insignificant. In the most expensive areas it doesn't reach $400.

But yet, Exxon gets $4 billion for R&D after it was very profitable with all the gas price hikes.



Goatseye said:
fatslob-:O said:
Baalzamon said:
Just no. Less free money will convince people to do something with their life. Not to mention...if these programs are being cut, why are more people sucking money out of them now than ever.

That is why socialism never succeeds in becoming the bigger country.

People that think like you amazes me. We buy one plane for 1 billion dollars(B-2 bombers) almost every year and it cost millions to maintain the fleet.

Military industry and other corporations get obscene corporate welfare and you are worried that people might benefice from our money instead of oligarchs.

Corporate welfare is around $100 billion and Social is not even close to that. The money people get for social welfare is very insignificant. In the most expensive areas it doesn't reach $400.

But yet, Exxon gets $4 billion for R&D after it was very profitable with all the gas price hikes.

Hey calm down, I'm all for a smaller military too if y'know, I don't like what either sides are doing.

Edit: BTW corporate welfare is also sh#t too. Same thing as socialism but only this time to help besinesses lol.



Baalzamon said:
I make like 12 to 15k a year yet make ends meet with my only "subsidy" being that I pay a low tax rate. I still buy games, expensive phones, build new computers, go to the bars with friends, yet apparently somebody of my status needs food stamps and every other subsidy?

How many kids you have? Do you have a spouse?



No kids or a spouse. I work about 30 hrs a week while going to school. Have all my scho paid off with a coupke thousand help from parents, thousands in scholarships from working my ass off, going to college for free my senior year of high school, etc.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.