Why are u bringin up 4 Swords? GBA had a rerelease of LttP.

Also u dont just look at the most recent title to show if a series is declining. Like I said, the second Zelda always sells significantly less than the first released on a console. Zelda-6.5m, Zelda 2-4.4m, OoT-7.6m, MM-3.6m, TP-6.8m(8.3 both versions), SS-3.3m. That is fairly consistant and Skyward Sowrd required an add-on and was released when Wii was already in sever decline.

3D Mario has not been declining my last post shows u how it has stayed consistant for over 15 years.

PS3 has how big of a library?? It is more than likely for the first year in total sales PS4 and One will do lower than the PS3.. Less value than next gen products?/ according to what.. by the time this holiday comes around it will have a price cut.. and the software needed to make it a value.. what will next gen have?? Those ports you hate so much you won't buy a new system for.. and what?? a few exclusives that could be hit or miss and graphics.. who you all supposedly say does not matter.. (Until it apparently does.. much like games... ironically enough.. )  and before you say yeah but PS4 has a Blu Ray.. consider this.. a Blu Ray player is not needed to play games.. like wise for you to have all the gameplay compatability of a Wii U on your PS4.. you will have to have a Vista.. which until a price cut is still a 250 dollar item.. for the price.. you get more value out of a Wii U.. even if you consider you have to throw a HDD on top.. and a Blu Ray.. (Which a great majority of people already have.. and once again is not actually needed in terms of total game and system capabilities..) so technically.. in terms of the average consumer.. I would think the Wii U is the better bargain.. after all if the DS, 3DS, Wii, and yes PS1 and two proved anything.. it is not about graphics and total capability.. it's about games and fun in general.. and Wii U will deliver that in spades.. by the Holidays.. 

You realize that mario 64 sold around 12mil with a much smaller audience and on the wii the first 3D mario did 10.8mil and this time it went down to 7mil with a much bigger install base. You know that the mainstream doesn't desire 3D mario but that is why NSMBWii outsold both SMG and SMG 2. Now can you admit that nobody but 3D mario fans want these games.

With the games currently announced for PS4/XOne neither will pass Wii U. Not because Wii U offers better games but because the PS3 and 360 are still going strong and all major releases are still being released primarily on PS360.
There's no point for the PS360 userbase to get either of the new consoles.

a game released late in the console's life and requires a motion plus didn't sell as well as the earlier title. how shocking.

3d mario is falling so much that 3d land is almost outselling galaxy, with just 1/3 the installed base.

Funny how you forget that nintendo was always better in terms of protables.

3 quarters correct.. and 1 quarter opnion... but hey at least you are mostly right compared to others.. 

that's why mario kart and nsmb sold so much more on the 50% higher ds installed base than it did on wii, oh wait!

a sequel released on the same console doesn't necessarily need to outsell the prequel. and when it doesn't outsell, it does not mean the series is declining.

look at other M, it sold bad because it didn't please fans in that ONE installment of the series. doesn't mean the series as a whole declined.

1) Not sure why you brought up the price point but Nintendo made more money during the PS2/GC era than Sony did - and selling at a $350 price point now doing the same or better than $99 price point then would mean the Wii U is actually doing better wouldn't it?

2) SNES was not the first on the market for that gen, the Genesis was and was outsold by NES for quite a while - you are moving the goal post there.

3) SNES did outsell PS1 for a while, remember the PS1 launched in 1994 while the SNES was 3-4 years old (depending on region) and in its prime. Not sure about the N64, it actually had a pretty good launch and sold fairly well compared to NES and SNES, was only on the market for like 4-5 years though and the PS1 was ripping up the charts that's why it looks unimpressive by comparisson.

4) Yes Dreamcast turned out to be a failure but was setting sales records when it launched - it can and has happened.

5) Wii was not the first on the market, 360 was and was outsold by PS2 for quite a while- again moving the goal post. 

6) I can't speak to GBA-DS/PSP sales margins at certain times, that data is quite hard to come by. I'm sure if we had it though I could find specific weeks were that happened, wouldn't change anything though. It's an example of a last-gen outselling next-gen none-the-less.

7) Comparing the Dreamcast to Wii U has a small amount of merit but mainly only because you want it to also be Nintendo's last home console. It's extremely unlikely that will happen for a number of reasons.

8) Actually I would point to the difference between DS & Wii numbers (and 3DS and Wii U numbers) to show that a large number of Nintendo fans stick to Nintendo's handhelds and not their consoles. If Nintendo could get those people back on the console side as well that represents a large number of people to tap into. And the funny thing about casuals is that they are fickle, they play what their friends play or what they discover and find fun - they may have jumped ship when the Wii lost support and they may or may not come back but its not as black and white as you make it out to be - still a large market Nintendo is trying to tap and will hopefully have some success.

9) Incorrect use of objective, you find value in those things but others may not. Myself, I buy video game systems for the games on them - extra hardware features mean very little to me. I have a PS3 but the blu ray player in it had no weight on my decision to purchase it. He addressed that some people (and even a lot of people) will see value there but that does not make it objective.

true, compared to others, this one was a rain of wisdon for the most part.