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That is so high I think, but achievable if they don't screw it with anything else like the japanese release date (even if justified).



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walsufnir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony pulls this off this just shows that their brand power is coming back. I was going to say 3.5 million for 2013 but if they have the hardware and don't plan on ever being sold out, then they might be able to pull it off. Whats 1.5 million if you're properly watching the hardware WW?


Their brand power was never gone.


That's why Sony went from selling about 150 million PS2 consoles to selling less then a 100 million PS3 consoles.  And it's not that I think the PS3 will reach a 100 million, I'm just giving it room for error on my part so I don't under and overstate sells.



PigPen said:
walsufnir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony pulls this off this just shows that their brand power is coming back. I was going to say 3.5 million for 2013 but if they have the hardware and don't plan on ever being sold out, then they might be able to pull it off. Whats 1.5 million if you're properly watching the hardware WW?


Their brand power was never gone.


That's why Sony went from selling about 150 million PS2 consoles to selling less then a 100 million PS3 consoles.  And it's not that I think the PS3 will reach a 100 million, I'm just giving it room for error on my part so I don't under and overstate sells.

 

PS3 is still selling good and given its quite bad start it only sells so much because of the brand name. Also x360 stole a lot of the market, PS2 had close to no competitor.



Xen said:
That's disappointing, I expected more...


Sony don't want to be embarrassed, besides they only can get so many consoles made in reality by launch date. 



PigPen said:
Xen said:
That's disappointing, I expected more...


Sony don't want to be embarrassed, besides they only can get so many consoles made in reality by launch date. 

True, true. It's still a lot, supposedly the biggest console launch ever anyway.



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the-pi-guy said:
PigPen said:
walsufnir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony pulls this off this just shows that their brand power is coming back. I was going to say 3.5 million for 2013 but if they have the hardware and don't plan on ever being sold out, then they might be able to pull it off. Whats 1.5 million if you're properly watching the hardware WW?


Their brand power was never gone.


That's why Sony went from selling about 150 million PS2 consoles to selling less then a 100 million PS3 consoles.  And it's not that I think the PS3 will reach a 100 million, I'm just giving it room for error on my part so I don't under and overstate sells.

A 600$ video game system with no games* usually dies, so it's beyond impressive that it even managed to sell 50 million consoles.  Most of that was because of the brand power.  If a different company released a 600$ with the same games that the PS3 saw, it would probably only sell a few million, if that.  

*Not necessarily that it didn't have any games, but it had very few big system sellers that the Xbox 360 didn't have.  


Sony didn't sell 50 million consoles at $600 dollars.  You know price cuts give console sales a boost for those that where on the fence about buying.  The real factor about the PS3 was Blu-ray.  Being fairly new at that time, and what Blu-ray players cost in stores made the PS4 look like a steal even with its high price. Sony has nothing like that too help sell the PS4. 



PigPen said:
the-pi-guy said:
PigPen said:
walsufnir said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony pulls this off this just shows that their brand power is coming back. I was going to say 3.5 million for 2013 but if they have the hardware and don't plan on ever being sold out, then they might be able to pull it off. Whats 1.5 million if you're properly watching the hardware WW?


Their brand power was never gone.


That's why Sony went from selling about 150 million PS2 consoles to selling less then a 100 million PS3 consoles.  And it's not that I think the PS3 will reach a 100 million, I'm just giving it room for error on my part so I don't under and overstate sells.

A 600$ video game system with no games* usually dies, so it's beyond impressive that it even managed to sell 50 million consoles.  Most of that was because of the brand power.  If a different company released a 600$ with the same games that the PS3 saw, it would probably only sell a few million, if that.  

*Not necessarily that it didn't have any games, but it had very few big system sellers that the Xbox 360 didn't have.  


Sony didn't sell 50 million consoles at $600 dollars.  You know price cuts give console sales a boost for those that where on the fence about buying.  The real factor about the PS3 was Blu-ray.  Being fairly new at that time, and what Blu-ray players cost in stores made the PS4 look like a steal even with its high price. Sony has nothing like that too help sell the PS4. 

Blueray in the ps3 didn't move jacks#1t



tres said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
If Sony pulls this off this just shows that their brand power is coming back. I was going to say 3.5 million for 2013 but if they have the hardware and don't plan on ever being sold out, then they might be able to pull it off. Whats 1.5 million if you're properly watching the hardware WW?

brand power?  $399  > $499  than sony> microsoft.  price is low enough for tax time


So I guess brand power and titles didn't help Sony eventually outsell Microsoft in seventh year sales (from launch to the present opposed to Microsofts launch to one year ago) but also in overall sales. 



outlawauron said:
Areym said:
That seems a little high to me. I think they can pull off 3.5mil. Above that would be a stretch. Maybe if the Xbone was still rocking those awful policies, they could easily pull off 5mil.

Keep in mind this is just shipped. They should be able to stuff the channels on new console excitement if need be.

The console isnt out and we are already in channel stuffing territory... haha :)

The issue Sony have is that MS and Sony hardware is alike and so one will steal off the other. Wii-u had a good launch but fell badly pretty soon after. I think the PS4 can start well and with some games coming out Feb/Japan launch and more countries launching in, i think it could do 5 million.



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chidori-chan2 said:

Sony and you BS prediction.urgh.


?? It is their financial target, and looks very attainable.