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TheSting on 11 September 2013
Vetteman94 said:
The only thing I got from this article is that people should leave the speculating about hardware and their difference to people who actually know what they are talking about. He never claims that he knows what those differences are if there is any. So everyone attacking him talking about 3rd party developers would know more, while correct, isnt the point of the article. He isnt comparing the PS4 to the Xbox One, he is just saying STFU unless you know what you are talking about and have knowledge on the situation.

Which lets face it, the vast majority of forum posters don't know a damn thing about it.


This is what I read also. I'm not even sure how you could see it any other way. Well unless you have an agenda. Which I do see here so carry on lol



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TimCliveroller on 11 September 2013

How do similar games perform under linux ... vs windows?

Why was that guy banned?



Ex Graphics Whore.

DJEVOLVE on 11 September 2013
NinjaHanzo said:
'Which is faster, a 500 horsepower Mustang or a 400 horsepower BMW M3?'

Ps4.



Cause you know the difference.  Also this is not even close to a accurate camparison.  Your not going to notice a difference.  Most people are not going to give a shit , they just want good games. XBOX ONE HAS THEM>

Only people informed on VG are in TROLOLOLOLOOLOLOL Non-stop.

Also he never said that XBOX ONE was more powerful. He said they are basically Identical or close to.

However ever single post, it's like some sony fans can't read or comprehend.

 



DJEVOLVE on 11 September 2013
ListerOfSmeg said:
Very true. A lot of people just believe whatever they want as long as it goes along with what they want to believe.


Confirmation biasism at it's best. This site has a really hard time with it.



Ashadian on 11 September 2013
HeresHoping said:

The floor is slippery in here from all the Sony juice squirting everywhere! The guy states the facts and all the you guys can do is turn it around on him. This forum shit is getting to be just like highschool all over again. Must be a lot of pain caused by MS from last gen for you guys. Don't blame MS for all of Sony's failings that your mad about from last gen.

~ Mod edit ~

This user was warned by TruckOSaurus for this post.


Maybe Dan should have a word in Penello's ear eh??? Maybe MS should forget the comparisons and stay quiet like Sony? Let the games do the talking? If your gonna state lies then your gonna called out



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FrancisNobleman on 11 September 2013

Of course the console they've got exclusive affiliations with, is the best one. Just of course.

People are still not accepting that ps4 simply is a more powerfull hardware ? This reminds me of the struggle "Wii U is not next gen"



Subie_Greg on 11 September 2013

He's right it's not a Mustang vs M3

It is a 5oo whp Mustang GT vs a 460 whp Mustang GT. And the 5oo whp Mustang happens to cost a little less $$$. And teh cloud won't help the 460 whp Mustang go any faster just like it won't help the Xbox One games look or run better : )

We (gamers) don't have to know shit. We just have to listen to the guys who know the shit. And there isn't anyone, even Microsoft who will say flat out that the Xbox One is more powerful than the Ps4. Most 3rd party devs say the Ps4 is more powerful but not by much. Problem is Ps4 cost less than Xbox One

And also hypocrite lol, because forza dev doesn't know shit about Ps4 yet



ShinmenTakezo on 11 September 2013

It's ironic he's saying this when Penello, who isn't an engineer, is doing exactly what he is harping against. MS is a total mess right now. They need to get their shit together and stop trying to wage a war they can't and will never win. They have a significantly weaker console than their competition and a higher price point. Instead of spouting lies and spreading misinformation they need to convince the public that there is more value in their box which justifies the price. To me they are acting as if they don't believe their box is worth the price, so they try to make it seem equal to or better than the cheaper, more powerful competition. That strategy will only work for those with blinders on and those willing to consume any bullshit your company shoves down their throats. I don't think there are a crap ton of people that fit into that category.



youarebadatgames on 11 September 2013
Subie_Greg said:
He's right it's not a Mustang vs M3

It is a 5oo whp Mustang GT vs a 460 whp Mustang GT. And the 5oo whp Mustang happens to cost a little less $$$. And teh cloud won't help the 460 whp Mustang go any faster just like it won't help the Xbox One games look or run better : )

We (gamers) don't have to know shit. We just have to listen to the guys who know the shit. And there isn't anyone, even Microsoft who will say flat out that the Xbox One is more powerful than the Ps4. Most 3rd party devs say the Ps4 is more powerful but not by much. Problem is Ps4 cost less than Xbox One

And also hypocrite lol, because forza dev doesn't know shit about Ps4 yet


No, its more like a 500 hp mustang gt vs a 450 hp corvette. Sure the mustang will win in a straight line, but put it on a track with bends and it loses.

Pc gamers know it's never as simple as just numbers, which is why no one gives a shit except console fanboys. The only metric that matters in the end is frames per second between the two with comparable image quality. Wait till the games and the benchmarks come out then we'll have something to talk about.



Subie_Greg on 11 September 2013
youarebadatgames said:
Subie_Greg said:
He's right it's not a Mustang vs M3

It is a 5oo whp Mustang GT vs a 460 whp Mustang GT. And the 5oo whp Mustang happens to cost a little less $$$. And teh cloud won't help the 460 whp Mustang go any faster just like it won't help the Xbox One games look or run better : )

We (gamers) don't have to know shit. We just have to listen to the guys who know the shit. And there isn't anyone, even Microsoft who will say flat out that the Xbox One is more powerful than the Ps4. Most 3rd party devs say the Ps4 is more powerful but not by much. Problem is Ps4 cost less than Xbox One

And also hypocrite lol, because forza dev doesn't know shit about Ps4 yet


No, its more like a 500 hp mustang gt vs a 450 hp corvette. Sure the mustang will win in a straight line, but put it on a track with bends and it loses.

Pc gamers know it's never as simple as just numbers, which is why no one gives a shit except console fanboys. The only metric that matters in the end is frames per second between the two with comparable image quality. Wait till the games and the benchmarks come out then we'll have something to talk about.

??? Not sure where Xbox One out performs PS4 as of now