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selnor1983 said:
iamdeath said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Hope its true. Just wait for etomaz to come here and spin this thing around.....waiting...


There is nothing to spin.............this is a rumour and highly unilkely, all the hardware specs have been officially outlined for ages.

Actually thats not true. Theres about 30 % of Hardware info Microsoft is not saying anything about. It is a fact that there is a NDA on the APU design in Xbo One. Why? Who knows. But this is the 7th rumour on this in 3 weeks. So who knows.

 

On the real side. So far the PS4 dos not have ay game visuals that beat XboX One. ITs only launch I know. Bu if PS4 is relly more powerful, why do Sony feel the need to mention it 500 times a week. Saying look at Killzone etc. Because Forza 5, Ryse and Quantum Break all look at th top for ingame visuals. PS4 is currently leadinng nothing in the graphics department on release. And I expect DF and reviews to support this on launch.

?? What? Sony has not really mentioned it since....Also, launch titles.......And wait and see, cannot judge games by videos. You are a little sensitive. I nevr said anything about visuals.



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walsufnir said:
Adinnieken said:
walsufnir said:
cannonballZ said:
How much extra power does this supposedly give X1?


roughly 1 cloud.

Really?  Come on Walsufnir.  You know the rules.


Hey, do you know me? It was of  course meant in a funny way! :)

A teacher once said to me, "Sarcasm is hate with a smile." 

I'm not saying I didn't think it was funny.  But one's humor is sometimes another's jab.



Putin said:
Maybe because some people can't let it go. And try to find any way to get some hope for XBO be much powerfull then it already is.


This.



selnor1983 said:
Xenostar said:
selnor1983 said:
iamdeath said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Hope its true. Just wait for etomaz to come here and spin this thing around.....waiting...


There is nothing to spin.............this is a rumour and highly unilkely, all the hardware specs have been officially outlined for ages.

Actually thats not true. Theres about 30 % of Hardware info Microsoft is not saying anything about. It is a fact that there is a NDA on the APU design in Xbo One. Why? Who knows. But this is the 7th rumour on this in 3 weeks. So who knows.

 

On the real side. So far the PS4 dos not have ay game visuals that beat XboX One. ITs only launch I know. Bu if PS4 is relly more powerful, why do Sony feel the need to mention it 500 times a week. Saying look at Killzone etc. Because Forza 5, Ryse and Quantum Break all look at th top for ingame visuals. PS4 is currently leadinng nothing in the graphics department on release. And I expect DF and reviews to support this on launch.


Think youll be dissapointed, after the KI downgrade to 720p, just wonder what other games were bull shitting there capabilities on high end PC's at E3


1. Sony has had not one single game running on finished hardware. Not one. Microsoft on the other hand as had Forza 5, Ryse, Killer Instinct and Dead Rising 3 running on retail Xbox Ones at E3, Gamescom and Pax. Confirmed by more than 5 sources. Including Digital Foundry.

2. There could be numerous reasons as to why certain developers are dropping the resolution. Including running out of time to rewrite code. Noone knows how long developers have had final devkits for either console. 

3. Forza 5 and Killer Instinct are getting praise for being the smoothest games at events like Gamescom and Pax. Sounds like concentrating on 60 fps was massively smart for launch titles. If Killer Instinct sells well, Im sure the next game will be native 1080p and 60 fps, wjilst having even more of tose amazing particle effects they have. The game already looks stunning. Best fighter visuals by a country mile.

4. I think Sony is setting its fans up for disappointment. What happens if this rumour is true? And its unlocked for 2nd wave games. Is possible, and will make Sony PS4 hugely underpowered in comparison.


Or maybe you mare believing what you want to believe, prepare to be disappointed.



Adinnieken said:
walsufnir said:
Adinnieken said:
walsufnir said:
cannonballZ said:
How much extra power does this supposedly give X1?


roughly 1 cloud.

Really?  Come on Walsufnir.  You know the rules.


Hey, do you know me? It was of  course meant in a funny way! :)

A teacher once said to me, "Sarcasm is hate with a smile." 

I'm not saying I didn't think it was funny.  But one's humor is sometimes another's jab.

 

As if teachers were always right... Seriously, based on the text in the OP itself, the whole thread can't be meant serious - it is clear that some not seriously meant posts will come and I wanted to troll at least MS on time in my life.

But keep the thread going!



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DeadBigfoot21 said:
Hope its true. Just wait for etomaz to come here and spin this thing around.....waiting...


Oh yeah mr I know everything and nothing it's true about Xbox one lol

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Putin said:
Maybe because some people can't let it go. And try to find any way to get some hope for XBO be much powerfull then it already is.


Am I missing something here. Its common knowledge that not one single gaming media knows 100% how the Xbox One works. Noone. Microsoft arent telling everything yet. By law they cant. They have a NDA with AMD. So until September 29th passes, we wont know for sure. 

Lately, alot of media are reporting that Microsoft have not designed a traditional CPU and GPU design. And that Microsoft ave designed something unusual for consoles and even for PC's. 



Adinnieken said:
Machiavellian said:
Man you are really riding this one Adinnieken. I have to give it to your for your dedication. Now you actually got me looking forward to another date based on these consoles. Oh well, lets see what happens during Sept 29.

Interesting that a Digital Foundry article on Kinect 2.0 interested me on a comment made by Tom the Author. Its seems MS has been very quite about something and is bursting at the seams (me paraphrasing) to get this info out. I am not sure if the X1 has some secrete sauce but it would be interesting if MS actually did have this dGPU. The meltdown in the forums would be epic.

After that, I would then love if Sony comes back with 2dGPUs then another meltdown. The fall out would be so glorious.

I wouldn't have posted this if I didn't think this offered something new.  Not only new but persuasive.  The fact that there is an AMD employee who lists the Xbox One APU/dGPU as something he worked on is extremely interesting.  More interesting is the fact that it got removed.  Something's afoot.

On the flip side, the discrete GPU rumor, for both consoles, is old.  VERY old.  The only question is whether or not they're true.  Eventually we'll know.



I agree that this has offered something different then the other thread.  Here is something else to throw on the pile

http://www.gamespot.com/news/xbox-one-deal-with-amd-costs-over-3-billion-6408926

3 billion dollars deal for AMD to create your custom GPU sounds like a good case of some extra sauce in the X1.  Comparions would be that MS spent 4.6 for Nokia devices and service.  Thats a lot of coin and it could definitely fund such a setup in the X1



iamdeath said:
selnor1983 said:
iamdeath said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Hope its true. Just wait for etomaz to come here and spin this thing around.....waiting...


There is nothing to spin.............this is a rumour and highly unilkely, all the hardware specs have been officially outlined for ages.

Actually thats not true. Theres about 30 % of Hardware info Microsoft is not saying anything about. It is a fact that there is a NDA on the APU design in Xbo One. Why? Who knows. But this is the 7th rumour on this in 3 weeks. So who knows.

 

On the real side. So far the PS4 dos not have ay game visuals that beat XboX One. ITs only launch I know. Bu if PS4 is relly more powerful, why do Sony feel the need to mention it 500 times a week. Saying look at Killzone etc. Because Forza 5, Ryse and Quantum Break all look at th top for ingame visuals. PS4 is currently leadinng nothing in the graphics department on release. And I expect DF and reviews to support this on launch.

?? What? Sony has not really mentioned it since....Also, launch titles.......And wait and see, cannot judge games by videos. You are a little sensitive. I nevr said anything about visuals.

No haha. Im not being horrible. 

I was pointing out that Microsoft havent given all the details. They are holding back on things. Just this week Microsoft said no comment when asked about wy they arent telling all on the full APU design. Something is definately amiss with their APU design. Something is not on the table.

The rest is just real world proof. The games seen so far dont suggest a PS4 advantage. Thats all I was getting at. 

No venom involved. :)



selnor1983 said:
Putin said:
Maybe because some people can't let it go. And try to find any way to get some hope for XBO be much powerfull then it already is.


Am I missing something here. Its common knowledge that not one single gaming media knows 100% how the Xbox One works. Noone. Microsoft arent telling everything yet. By law they cant. They have a NDA with AMD. So until September 29th passes, we wont know for sure. 

Lately, alot of media are reporting that Microsoft have not designed a traditional CPU and GPU design. And that Microsoft ave designed something unusual for consoles and even for PC's. 

Not one single media knows how the ps4 works either, that's par for the course.

 

Where is this a lot of media? No way are they able to keep this secret this close to launch, heck everything aboput ps4 and x1 were known befoire the reveal. This is nothing more then wishfull thinking.

 

Even AMD has said the ps4 is more powerfull...............................

 

The PS4  has an unusual non standard CPU and GPU too, what is your point?