Straight-shooting Bethesda executive Pete Hines has said that Nintendo didn’t get third-parties involved with the Wii U early enough, as Microsoft and Sony did with their own consoles.

“The time for convincing publishers and developers to support Wii U has long past. The box is out,” he said.

“You have to do what Sony and Microsoft have been doing with us for a long time and it’s not that every time we met with them we got all the answers we wanted.

“But they involved us very early on, and talking to folks like Bethesda and Gearbox, they say ‘here’s what we’re doing, here’s what we’re planning, here’s how we think it’s going to work’ to hear what we thought – from our tech guys and from an experience standpoint.”

Hines said platform holders need to “spend an unbelievable amount of time upfront” talking with developers so that a given piece of hardware meets the needs of content producers – or they just won’t be interested.

“If you’re just going sort off deciding ‘we’re going to make a box and this is how it works and you should make games for it.’ Well, no. No is my answer,” he said.

“I’m going to focus on other ones that better support what it is we’re trying to do. So you’ve gotta spend more time trying to reach out to those folks before you even make the box, when you’re still designing and thinking about how it’s going to work.”

Bethesda has said repeatedly that it currently has no plans to develop games for the Wii U. Hines said recently that the company’s reluctance to engage with the console is “largely a hardware thing“.

Source: http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/03/nintendo-has-to-do-what-sony-and-microsoft-have-been-doing-with-new-consoles-bethesda-boss/

Despite what some people believe about an industry wide anti-Nintendo conspiracy, I think it really is that simple. Nintendo makes the Nintendo boxes they want to make the Nintendo games they want, and third parties are an afterthought. So for many third parties, Nintendo is likewise an afterthought.

An industry wide anti-Nintendo conspiracy is 100% BS, but to say that Nintendo has never ever tried to reach out to 3rd parties is false. They have. 

To be fair EA had quite a bit of involvement in the creation of the system. That ended up working out very well for Nintendo. 

That's Nintendo's fault for not asking what EA meant by "unprecedented".

Agreed with badgenome on this.

/end thread.

Finally we know it's not a hardware limitation. It's the system architecture and organization. Ps. There is an anti-nintendo jealousy because these companies wish they owned all the profit and top 50 best sellers of all time nintendo has.


edit: i know i will be missunderstood so i will try and explain this. Developers don't just want 8gig ram and hex-core cpu. It's more detailed than that. It's not about power. It's about ease of development. Nintendo's direction made it harder for western pc developers to build software for the system. that's not a limitation. it's a different style of doing the same thing. It's just not western pc developers favorite style.

Its largely a hardware problem. You obviously missed it so heres the quote. Nintendo never cares to listen.

"Bethesda has said repeatedly that it currently has no plans to develop games for the Wii U. Hines said recently that the company’s reluctance to engage with the console is “largely a hardware thing“."

Just like I told badgenome:

An industry wide anti-Nintendo conspiracy is 100% BS, but to say that Nintendo has never ever tried to reach out to 3rd parties and get them involved is false. They have