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Imaginedvl on 15 September 2013
ethomaz said:

Imaginedvl said:

Well I'm a software engineer too (working at Oracle) and I will never pretend to be a "hardware engineer" which is a completly different world. Maybe you proved to these guys that you are effectively a software engineer working for IBM but to me it means nothing while talking about the hardware. (I love how engineer is used in certain country while simply talking about application developpers even if it has nothing to do with real engineering but anyway).

As far as your post, as they are usualy just links to other sources I do not know why you assume I do not believe them, prove me wrong... You seems to assume a lot of things  :)

The way you are responding and biasing your posts (for instance if you post even a good news about MS/Xbox, you will find a way to turn it into something evil/bad/wrong/immoral/etc...)... And fyi, I do not even believe in these rumors about the dGPU and other stuff but I find interresting for people to talk about it and even speculate... You on the other hand are just posting that kind of stuff (the unicorn being the last in date...).

Good job Mr. Software Engineer who is also a Hardware Engineer ;)

I'm software enginee... create/research code/algorithms... I'm not a application developer (in software developer and Oracle part I have certification in Oracle Siebel but I just make consultant in this area).

The dGPU stated by the rumor is impossible unless they create a new tech at hardware level never used or created for any hardware company in the world... maybe in 10 years... what is impossible right now is impossible and nobody can change that.

And yeah... I'm right another time like most of my post related to hardware/software.

PS. I attemped to developer games too but just for hobby.

See that exactly what is wrong with you lol...

Either you are talking about the OP topic:
- But I already said like 10 times that I do not even believe into that rumor...

Or you are talking about being right because you are a software engineer...
- And well, yet again we were talking about an "hardware" engineer...Which is NOT the case.

So in both case you are not "right another time"...



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landguy1 on 16 September 2013
fatslob-:O said:
landguy1 said:
drkohler said:
landguy1 said:
Either way, I agree that this whole thread has already been debunked by M$ already, with the exception of the "hidden tech in Kinect" theory.

There is no "hidden tech" in the Kinect2 SoC. We know perfectly well what is required, and we also have slides from the HotChips talk that show exactly the building blocks that we are expecting (sorry, no cpu).


I didn't say there was.  I just stated that until M$ says there isn't(or we get a tear down done), it is still a possibility.


Back up your speculation otherwise what you just did was wishful thinking and the slide that ethomaz put also shows no processing components.

Wow, you need to read the thread ther missy.  I never made the claim or speculation.  All I said is that NO ONE HERE can patently dismiss any speculation being made.  You can share your opinion that you think it is untrue.  You can post block diagrams that support your point and say it doesn't seem likely.  But, until there is a tear down or M$ just flat out denies it you wouldn't know for certain.  You fall into the same trap that the person speculating this idea has.  You don't know if it is true or untrue, so you have to pick a side that you like or seems likely.  It doesn't make you right or wrong, but all you did was pick a side.  THe funny thing is that I said I agree with you and the others that it PROBABLY(I will define it for you, as it seems that you need it) doesn't exist.

prob·a·bly = in all likelihood; very likely



landguy1 on 16 September 2013
drkohler said:
landguy1 said:

I just stated that until M$ says there isn't(or we get a tear down done), it is still a possibility.

No it isn't. We know exactly what is on the Kinect2 SoC. You got your teardown on the HotChips talk slides. Again don't start another silly rumour with "it is still a possibilty". Again, it isn't. End of story. No magical cpus, no magical gpus on the Kinect2. No secret sauce to find there.  End of story.


Take the time to read before you speak...  I didn't start this nor do I believe it to be true.



fatslob-:O on 16 September 2013

Alright enough with the speculation about about kinect 2 having a powerful processor if anything that processing component likely won't go above 10 watts because the kinect will start to have overheating issues. Oh and one more thing if anything that soc will be used for analysis of input and not rendering which means that it is likely an ASIC and not some gpu.



kirby007 on 16 September 2013

2gb of prossessing power eh



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drkohler on 16 September 2013
landguy1 said:
drkohler said:
landguy1 said:

I just stated that until M$ says there isn't(or we get a tear down done), it is still a possibility.

Take the time to read before you speak...  I didn't start this nor do I believe it to be true.

What is the point of "it is still a possibility" in your post, then?  If you thought it can't be true, then say so and don't cop out with a "maybe it could be true" statement. This puts you right into the corner of the "hopeful it happens crowd", despite that we know it is not going to happen.



fatslob-:O on 16 September 2013
drkohler said:
landguy1 said:
drkohler said:
landguy1 said:

I just stated that until M$ says there isn't(or we get a tear down done), it is still a possibility.

Take the time to read before you speak...  I didn't start this nor do I believe it to be true.

What is the point of "it is still a possibility" in your post, then?  If you thought it can't be true, then say so and don't cop out with a "maybe it could be true" statement. This puts you right into the corner of the "hopeful it happens crowd", despite that we know it is not going to happen.

Landguy should have known better by backing up a possiblity with some evidence.



landguy1 on 16 September 2013
fatslob-:O said:
drkohler said:
landguy1 said:
drkohler said:
landguy1 said:

I just stated that until M$ says there isn't(or we get a tear down done), it is still a possibility.

Take the time to read before you speak...  I didn't start this nor do I believe it to be true.

What is the point of "it is still a possibility" in your post, then?  If you thought it can't be true, then say so and don't cop out with a "maybe it could be true" statement. This puts you right into the corner of the "hopeful it happens crowd", despite that we know it is not going to happen.

Landguy should have known better by backing up a possiblity with some evidence.

I will tell you the same thing in this thread. READ THE THREAD before commenting.



fatslob-:O on 16 September 2013
landguy1 said:
fatslob-:O said:
drkohler said:
landguy1 said:
drkohler said:
landguy1 said:

I just stated that until M$ says there isn't(or we get a tear down done), it is still a possibility.

Take the time to read before you speak...  I didn't start this nor do I believe it to be true.

What is the point of "it is still a possibility" in your post, then?  If you thought it can't be true, then say so and don't cop out with a "maybe it could be true" statement. This puts you right into the corner of the "hopeful it happens crowd", despite that we know it is not going to happen.

Landguy should have known better by backing up a possiblity with some evidence.

I will tell you the same thing in this thread. READ THE THREAD before commenting.

"I didn't say there was.  I just stated that until M$ says there isn't(or we get a tear down done), it is still a possibility." -landguy1

Y'know we avoid making these asinine speculation's based on sanity. It is better for microsoft to give a run down of the kinect soc, however it is insane to expect the kinect to give it the xbone more computing power. 

Oh and read other people's posts even when it is not directly responding to anyone as it will give an insight on the situation.

Instead of telling me to read your posts why don't you use that brain of yours for a second to think about how likely the possibility is. 



landguy1 on 16 September 2013
fatslob-:O said:
landguy1 said:
fatslob-:O said:
drkohler said:
landguy1 said:
drkohler said:
landguy1 said:

I just stated that until M$ says there isn't(or we get a tear down done), it is still a possibility.

Take the time to read before you speak...  I didn't start this nor do I believe it to be true.

What is the point of "it is still a possibility" in your post, then?  If you thought it can't be true, then say so and don't cop out with a "maybe it could be true" statement. This puts you right into the corner of the "hopeful it happens crowd", despite that we know it is not going to happen.

Landguy should have known better by backing up a possiblity with some evidence.

I will tell you the same thing in this thread. READ THE THREAD before commenting.

"I didn't say there was.  I just stated that until M$ says there isn't(or we get a tear down done), it is still a possibility." -landguy1

Y'know we avoid making these asinine speculation's based on sanity. It is better for microsoft to give a run down of the kinect soc, however it is insane to expect the kinect to give it the xbone more computing power. 

Oh and read other people's posts even when it is not directly responding to anyone as it will give an insight on the situation.

Instead of telling me to read your posts why don't you use that brain of yours for a second to think about how likely the possibility is. 

Your kidding right?  That is what I said EARLIER IN THE THREAD.  I read the earlier comments and added that I didn't think it was true, but because it is a possibility we will have to wait for confirmation.  Confirmation will come in a few days when or if M$ debinks the latest theory of XB1's secret power.  Having read some of your comments in a few threads, it seems that you have a pretty good technical knowledge.  But because you weren't directly invovled in the XB1's design, and are making assumptions based on partial information.  I can't just take your opinion as FACT, I take your opinion as just that.  It's not like it will matter if the XB1 has the hidden power or not.  It's just something for the fanboys to BS about on the web.