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Goatseye said:
Ajescent said:
 

Unless you have exact numbers to the letter, I'm gonna argue you don't know either. But either way, "100%" is an over exaggeration, that was my main gripe with your original statement.

I'm not good with Math can you count them games for me please? This is just a guesstimate...


And do you have Sony's?

You say ps3 only but I'm gonna argue ps mobile/minis all go into that total as well...

Besides, quantity of numbers is not a sign that they are "100%" behind indies, less we forget, not all indies who have worked with MS have given them glowing reviews. If they are doing something wrong to piss off a section of the crowd then their actions are not "100%" with the crowd's desires.



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Ajescent said:
Goatseye said:
Ajescent said:
 

Unless you have exact numbers to the letter, I'm gonna argue you don't know either. But either way, "100%" is an over exaggeration, that was my main gripe with your original statement.

I'm not good with Math can you count them games for me please? This is just a guesstimate...


And do you have Sony's?

You say ps3 only but I'm gonna argue ps mobile/minis all go into that total as well...

Besides, quantity of numbers is not a sign that they are "100%" behind indies, less we forget, not all indies who have worked with MS have given them glowing reviews. If they are doing something wrong to piss off a section of the crowd then their actions are not "100%" with the crowd's desires.

You can't please Greeks and Trojans at the same time. Not even my buddy Jesus pleased everybody.

Now it's your turn to show me PS3's data because you "kinda" refuted my statement earlier. You can throw ps mobile/minis even PS GO(?) adn I won't even include indies/arcade on Windows platform.

I just want you to show me the money- Jerry McGuire.



Goatseye said:

You can't please Greeks and Trojans at the same time. Not even my buddy Jesus pleased everybody.

Now it's your turn to show me PS3's data because you "kinda" refuted my statement earlier. You can throw ps mobile/minis even PS GO(?) adn I won't even include indies/arcade on Windows platform.

I just want you to show me the money- Jerry McGuire.


Calm down dude, not that devoted enough to go tallying numbers.

You are probably correct I don't care-

What I do care about is my original comment numbers is not proof that MS are 100%  Behind Indies nor is it proof that no one else is.



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Xbox One: What are you doing Dave?

Ajescent said:
 


Calm down dude, not that devoted enough to go tallying numbers.

You are probably correct I don't care-

What I do care about is my original comment numbers is not proof that MS are 100%  Behind Indies nor is it proof that no one else is.

It's all good. Nobody really can be 100% behind somebody in this industry. But MS is the one that did most for indies this gen but people on the net with different affiliation try to paint MS as the least connected to independent and arcade games.

I just wish for some people here to stop their misinformation campaign and start posting informative texts, be it for PS4 or X1.



If MS were so great as letting devs have their space, Halo 2 wouldn't have had such a horrible ending and pop in, Bungie would probably still be exclusive and Rare would be making the next Perfect Dark instead of Avatar items and Kinect games.



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prayformojo said:

If MS were so great as letting devs have their space, Halo 2 wouldn't have had such a horrible ending and pop in, Bungie would probably still be exclusive and Rare wouldn't completely SUCK.

Or maybe they love indies so much that they decided to make Bungie want to go indie so they could love them even more. Did you ever think of that, mister genius?

And maybe they tried the same with Rare, but Rare just never got the message.



prayformojo said:

If MS were so great as letting devs have their space, Halo 2 wouldn't have had such a horrible ending and pop in, Bungie would probably still be exclusive and Rare would be making the next Perfect Dark instead of Avatar items and Kinect games.


I can't speak for Rare, but as far as I'm concerned, Bungie did whatever they wanted with the Halo franchise. And when the time came, they asked Microsoft if they could let them be independent again (Sure, paying their way to it, of course) and Microsoft accepted.

 

So I refuse your statement.



Aside from the excellent indie games channel, MS also supplied some powerful tools for game creators which had fall-on effects such as C# in Unity, the current standard in indie game devkits. The only devs who seem to have a beef with MS are all known well known by name, and therefore attention-seekers and likely prima-donnas who were rustled by not getting the snowflake treatment that they expect.

And for all that, most of these whiny devs' games have fairly average to poor sales record, despite the massive publicity. It may be that the xbox marketing team told them that their games weren't as marketable as the designer was convinced that they were.



prayformojo said:

If MS were so great as letting devs have their space, Halo 2 wouldn't have had such a horrible ending and pop in, Bungie would probably still be exclusive and Rare would be making the next Perfect Dark instead of Avatar items and Kinect games.

If you knew Rare's history you would have not said that.



Wright said:
prayformojo said:

If MS were so great as letting devs have their space, Halo 2 wouldn't have had such a horrible ending and pop in, Bungie would probably still be exclusive and Rare would be making the next Perfect Dark instead of Avatar items and Kinect games.


I can't speak for Rare, but as far as I'm concerned, Bungie did whatever they wanted with the Halo franchise. And when the time came, they asked Microsoft if they could let them be independent again (Sure, paying their way to it, of course) and Microsoft accepted.

 

So I refuse your statement.


Bungie was FORCED into releasing Halo 2 well before it was done. That is a well documented fact.