Ok. Let's say you are right. God is not all knowing.

Does this mean God can't exist? Or does this mean he's just not all knowing? If Christians are wrong in some areas about god. This does not mean that he doesn't exist.

That's like saying I saw a Lion in the park today and he had three ribbons in his hair, then he disapeered in thin air. Then we go to the park... find two ribbons on the ground and you say "See that lion never existed."

As for how could god be all Good if no evil existed? Simple. Good and Evil were created... just like everything else.

To you and I Good and Evil might be different. If my brother is about to hurt your brother and possibly kill him, and you kill my brother to save yours... I may see that as evil. You may see that as good. Our definitions are different.

The only person with an accurate definition of Good, is the person who created good in the first place.

If no one created good, then all of our definitions of good and evil are equally valid. My definition of good is equal to Charles Manson's defintion of good, the only difference is that the sociatal norms trend more toward my way, so my way of good is the version we go off of more then the serial killers.

If god exists and said "Blue is Green, and Green is Blue, you jackasses have been screwing it up." Then Blue is really Green, Green is really Blue. If God created everything, then basically God is whatever he wants to be. He's god.

Furthermore, if there is a god. It's highly likely he's a lot smarter then we are and can think and understand stuff we couldn't possibly begin to understand.

I mean when a Nuclear Physisicst starts talking about how a Nuclear Reactor works, and you can't understand it... do you go "That's bullshit!" no of course not... he just knows more about the subject then you do. You gotta take his word for it. Maybe he's BSing you, but you don't know either way, and if he's the expert you are likely going to take his word for it if you can't figure out nuclear physics yourself.

The whole proving there is a god to atheists thing though seems like a fruitless endevour. There is no proof either way, but even if there was a mountain of proof that god existed, plenty of people wouldn't believe it.

God could come down to earth today. Say "Hey, Kasz, I exist, watch me do some crazy stuff." then perform miracle after miracle out of nowhere, and i wouldn't believe it was him based on that, because God could do a bunch of miracles, satan could do a bunch of miracles, some sort of alien could be doing mriacles, guy from the future, i could be hallucinating...

anyway any great number of things could be the cause of it. (Demons, Ra, guy from the past but from a more advanced era, human adbucted but given great power, computer simulation created into this world to screw with people (which would make this world a computer simulation.))

 The only thing that would make me believe it was in fact god would be if I felt personally that it was god.

That's where i think most people fail in pushing religion. At best you should just state what your believe and why you believe it, and hope that people get the same inner revelation and feeling that you do. A basic feeling of connection to the origin of the universe.

Otherwise you are basically trying to teach someone to snowboard who has never heard of snow before.

Then where did the idea of God come from in the first place?

No problem, Phendrana.

Whoops, double post.

Evidence? Proof? Most people don't like the idea that there might be something greater/stronger then them out in the world. It is unfortunately believed that anything with greater power would use it to force its will on others. People like to be in control, they like to have choices so its easier to believe that the world/the universe/life in general is all some cosmic accident rather then think they are some pawn on some cosmic chessboard. Which of course is ridculous. Why would some creator create some intricate world and web of interdependent species just to mess with them? People like to belive in absolutes, all christians are intolerant, all republicans are pure evil, all democrats are above reproach and president Bush has never done a bit of good in his entire life. There can't be a god because he would act like my 4 year old nephew instead of some kindly old grandfather. Or there can't be a god because there's evil in the world because god somehow controls everyone or he should control everyone or something. That last one I admit I'll never understand. 

Just a few thoughts. There is no wind in outerspace. When a comet sails by mini earth's aren't created in its wake. So the Big Bang happened for no logical reason at all and created our world and solar system. Convenient.

There was no life on Earth and then magically there was for no reason at all. Some lightning struck the mud and poof! Life. Think about it you have a room full of furniture and then for no reason an English bulldog forms out of the ground. Thats why creationists are so stupid they don't see the logic of scientific fact. Convenient.

We can find dinosaur bones from millions of years ago but we can't find a half monkey half caveman fossil from 60,000 years ago. The missing link as it were. I guess thats because the missing link was made entirely of jello and had no bones. Someone call Bill Cosby. Convenient. 

Evolution is based on overcoming obstacles in ones environment. Natural selection if you will, if you are better able to deal with your environment you will flourish. So if your environment doesn't change neither would you. You would have no reason to evolve. Thats why Geico was able to travel to the Amazon rainforest and collect a bunch of cavemen for their commercials. Oh wait I forgot we all magically evolved at the same time. Darwin waved his magical wand and poof! Convenient.

 Cows never have litters they at most have 2 calfs at a time. For some reason they have 4 udders though. Makes it easier for humans to milk them often without the cows getting sore. I guess Darwin forgot to use the wand on them. Convenient.

Chickens lay tons of eggs all the time. Only a tiny fraction ever get fertilized. It is good for a growing population so they don't use up all their sources of food (humans perhaps?) especially if they are on the top of the food chain but for the chickens it is an awful waste. I guess Darwin forgot to evolve them also. Convenient.

Believe what you wish. That Tom Cruise imagined us all into existence, that space aliens created everything and put us all here, or that theres some benevolent god up there that believes you are all special, you are all unique and is cheering you all on to be the heroes you were meant to be.

Those evil Christians that try to force you to believe by sharing their faith instead of shutting up about it? Well look at the pope he goes around telling everyone that they are special, they are gods children, they aren't alone, that they should strive to be perfect (good) people and that the evil they face in their lives makes them stronger.

If there is no such thing as god would the pope have wasted his life? Telling people overcoming their suffering made them strong, giving them hope, that they are loved eternally by their creator, that they will be rewarded for living like good people? I don't think so.   

My fingers were crushed by a marble sink when I was in kindergarten, two of them were completely severed. They took me to the doctors and were able to sew them on. It shouldn't have worked because I was so young and the time it took to get me to the hospital. But it did work. My fingers were able to be reattached I still remember doctors coming in having me make a fist calling me miracle boy and running batteries of tests on my fingers.

I should not have them.

Evidence that there is a god? I could point to many things, the miracle of childbirth, the hole in the ozone layer in the Antartic mysteriously fixing itself,  people helping complete strangers with no gain for themselves, evil heartless organized religions setting up soup kitchens, the miracles at Fatimah, bleeding statues that were never explained, the core samples that were taken from across Asian and Africa showing there was once a great flood (Noah anyone?) but I'll just look at my fingers on my right hand and remember.

There are no accidents.

Jeremy

 I am well studied on the entire bible and surronding history. I love this stuff. Revelation happens to be one of my favs. It's a book of prophecy that deals directly with the days we live in now, and like the book of Daniel it is fascinating.

You made me remember my favorite line from the Star Trek movies :p

"What does God need with a starship?"

So, I ask any of you.  Why does God need preachers?  Why does God need churches?  Why does God need the 10 Commandments?   Why does God need the Bible?  Why does God need these tools if he is all powerful and wise?  If he really does exist, why does he need to make statues bleed to keep you believing?  Why does he need you to believe?  Why does he need you to follow his rules in order to have a wonderful afterlife?  Are you sure your praying to a higher all loving power, or are you supporting an alien being controlling certain aspects of your life?

If he doesn't need these tools, why go to church?  Why support religion?  Is it to continue preaching what your prefered lifestyle is to the next generation or are you truly under the impression that God needs you to tell everyone about him?  What did people before organized religion do? Did they all go to hell because they lived life to their rules?  When I go to hell because I don't support the idea of an "all loving"God, will I finally meet the cavemen of history's past?

I haven't watched the first five links, but I watched the sixth.

I do not believe that that guy was ever a evolutionist lecturer. Because at the end he said that evolution was random and chance. Evolution is the complete, absolute, polar opposite of random and chance. ALL of the examples of 'creatures that defy evolution' can be easily explained by evolution. I am certainly not a biologist. I have no knowledge of biology above GCSE level, but even I could explain how some of those creatures evolved. 

I suggest you read a couple of books by Richard Dawkins, or just any book on evolution to get a better understanding of evolution. Then make up your mind on whether God designed us or if we evolved.

I would like to point out that the creationist in the video, when talking about the Human eye that must have been designed by God, said 'if you get a perfect Human eye, not one that is short sighted or long sighted, it can see for miles and miles, and really up close'. Notice that the vast majority of Human eyes are not perfect. This suggests to me that an omnipotent God has not designed them because they are not perfect. The imperfections in the eye are to be expected if the eye has been evolving over thousands of years, thus backing up and providing even more evidence for evolution.   

About evolution. I had a roommate in college with webbed fingers. This to me defines evolution. One generation of humans is given a tool in order to "swim" away from the incestuous pool of deformed genetic code. This in and of itself is why mutations happen in my opinion. The human genetic code would fail unless diverse sets of genes continue to adapt to the surroundings. If you get this new mutation of human that can swim better, they will survive and seek out diversity. It's the same way that I will argue that "hybrid" humans (forgive the word, but think about it) that are children of different races of people from different points around the world are generally more attractive to both races. Is this what some would call intelligent design?

If it is intelligent... why did God give this man webbed fingers so he could swim easier? Couldn't this God have seen that he grew up in upstate New York far away from any swampland and far away from the oceanfront and maybe have given him bigger legs instead? Where's the logic in giving him webbed fingers and toes? Is this the "God" you want in control of your life?

 1) Death is very destroyable. Remember death is the result of Adamic Sin and Jesus Ransom repurchases us from adamic sin. Under God's kingdom Adamic Sin and Death will no longer exist. They will be destroyed.

2 )You mention Rev 20:10. You obviously understand who the devil is, but do you know who the beast and prophet is? That entails a very long discussion of revelation that I'm not going to get into. But I will mention something I said later in the post you quoted. The lake of fire and the lake of burning sulfur are allusions or references to an actual place that tangibly existed. The place is called Gehenna and it was a trash dump that was on fire 24/7 and smelt as sulfur. It pictures destruction as if by fire, or a ceasing to exist. Second Death, from which there is no ressurection.

3)Torment is translated from the "basanistes" It literally means 'jailers'. The idea being that Satan's imprisonment to everlasting destruction is indeed torment. It is different than the idea of torture and suffering that is derived from the greek word "basanizo" which literally means 'test by the proving stone or torture.'

4)Eccl. 9:4-6,10 specifically mentions the state of those who die from adamic sin. The are not conscious of anything. The are simply dead. The teaching of an immortal soul is not found within the bible. That is another "weed" that was infiltrated from the Hellenic religions. If you want proof turn your bible to Genesis 2:7. Here the bible specifically says that God breathed the breath of life and the man came to be a living soul. It does not say that the man was giving an immortal soul. The word soul is derived from the Hebrew word "nephesh" which literally means 'a breather; being' and the greek word "psyche". Nephesh describes living things, such as humans and animals. The word does not describe spirit creatures. Spirit creatres are described by the word "ruach" in hebrew and "pneuma" in Greek and are never used to describe any part of a human.

5)Second death does represent eternal destruction. Those going thru second death have no hope of resurrection. They will be destroyed forever. Those going thru second death are said to be thrown into the garbage dump gehenna, the place that burns with sulfur, and destroyed (not tortured).