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Forums - Gaming - So PS4 Is Basically Going To Win This Gen, Right?

LiquorandGunFun on 27 August 2013
Incubi said:
I'm gonna go with John Lucas and say Sony and M$ have fallen into Nintendos elaborate trap by offering expensive mechanical monstrosities. They will proceed to be dismantled completely as soon as they release their consoles. The kids will know their place and become niche in the face of father Nintendo, and so will all the traitorous scum that follows them at the expense of father Nintendo.




 

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Proxy-Pie on 27 August 2013
LiquorandGunFun said:
MohammadBadir said:
LiquorandGunFun said:
its a bit early since neither has come out yet, did you read one of nostradamis quatrains? we will have a better idea 2 years from now to see if sony can keep momentum going or if there will be a shift, who knows at this point. i know i want both xbo and ps4.

nintendo isnt a consideration until its a reasonable price. sorry fanboys.


Yeah, having the cheapest console and free online is way too expensive and unreasonable.


True, but its a console with a real account system. :)

Iwata confirmed that the WiiU and 3DS will receive a true account system in the future, and that "future" is likely around september



ironmanDX on 27 August 2013

Wow, this sounds like 2005!



Lawlight on 27 August 2013
ironmanDX said:
Wow, this sounds like 2005!


Where people were saying that the PS3 would win? They were right.



Zero999 on 27 August 2013
brendude13 said:
Zero999 said:

okay dude, sony never has to do a thing but nintendo needs a huge hit in order to suceed. it's not like games matter, right?

No, Nintendo need a lot of hits, which are they aren't going to get without huge 3rd party support.

What makes you think Sony aren't going to "do a thing".

"What makes you think Sony aren't going to "do a thing"".

really?really?really?really?really?really?really?really?

you can't possibly have understood that, you must be trolling. I'll draw for you regardless:

his stance: sony NEVER HAS TO DO A THING (=/= won't do a thing) to win, victory is always theirs. But nintendo only has a chance if they get lucky and score a big hit.

do you understand now how nonsensical that way of thinking is?



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Max King of the Wild on 27 August 2013
theshonen8899 said:


Vita didn't have over 1 million pre-orders.

To put this in perspective, the Wii was released on November 19th, 2006 and went on to sell about 500-600k units for the rest of the month. That's how big 1 million pre-orders is, and the PS4 isn't coming for two to three months.

And that was before they announced a date. 



Max King of the Wild on 27 August 2013
Conegamer said:
I wouldn't be so certain. They'll have the best launch, but how people will accept it say, 6 months in, is as of yet an unknown. So if Nintendo strike hard with Mario Kart, Smash Bros. and a price cut, and other smaller titles, I could see them snatching the momentum and the generation with it.

So, I say it's probable, that the PS4 will be win, but not certain, and not by much.


Thats wishful thinking. No pricecut or game or both has increased sales that much. The industry pretty much rejected the Wii U and thats all but written in stone. Righht now i think the best nintendo should expect is 50mil and thats reaching. I think thats the least Sony should be expecting right now.



Zero999 on 27 August 2013
Soundwave said:
gum said:
Soundwave you make a lot of baseless claims: what are the proofs exactly that games like Wii Sports or Wii Fit won't sell well? What are the proof that casual gamers won't buy any new consoles when the right games will be released? I don't see any. It's like people assuming handhelds and 3DS especially were dead because of smartphone and that didn't happen. Now games like AC or Tomodatchi for example even sell really well to the casual gamers that the same people assumed will never buy such a device anymore. So there is really nothing to back up your assertions.

I still think WiiU will dominate next gen: Nintendo has sold 100 millions consoles with very little support for hardcore games from third parties and there is no reason for this to happen agian this time. Even if WS and WF don't sell as well as the previous iterrations of these series this is a huge difference. The WiiU line up this fall is also by far the best one of all three console and 2014 is also at least as impressive.


The fact that Brain Training 3DS, Nintendogs + cats, Nintendo Land, Game & Wario have had a tiny fraction of the success of Wii/DS blue ocean games does not bode well for Wii Sports/Fit.

3DS has taken a massive hit from the smartphone/tablet business, the Vita has been practically rendered moot entirely, the gaming handheld business has shrunk tremendously. Depsite Nintendo throwing a $80 price reduction and every Mario game + Animal Crossing + some decent third party support + a model revision, the 3DS is behind the DS and GBA in sales at equivalent points in its lifespan and it's a gap that grows larger every month, not smaller.

The Wii U is nothing like the Wii anyway -- it doesn't have a controller that's making people go crazy over it, and without that it's just a GameCube successor that's very late to the HD generation. 

It's not a serious threat to Sony just yet, unless Nintendo starts taking risks with new types of software. They don't need sequels to Wii Sports/Fit they need the *next* Wii Sports, unfortunately Angry Birds and Plants Vs. Zombies and things like that are the actual successors to the casual gaming fads.

ps4 doesn't have a controller that's making people go crazy for either, the rest of the bolded is plain trolling.



Zero999 on 27 August 2013
gum said:


The 3DS is selling almost as well as the DS at the same period so I don't see how it took a huge hit exactly. Also Nintendogs and BT didin't sell well but AC or TC among other did so there is no reason to think WS and WF won't do as well.

Even if Nintendo doesn't release the new Wii Sports they still have Wii Sports (among others of course) and this is the biggest ip ever and until we have proofs or at least compelling arguments that it is not anymore there is no reason to think that it won't attract again a lot fo casual gamers, casual gamers that we have no proofs again won't buy another console any time soon if ever.

regardless of that, nintendo's audience is everyone and that includes a huge number of the most hardcore gamers on the planet (people who enjoy quality and challenge from games).



dsgrue3 on 27 August 2013

I'm not sure how anyone can disagree.

At this point, it seems fairly certain. Down the road, perhaps things change.