Well we'll just have to disagree on that point then. To me, the Gamepad is a great controller, and has a lot of untapped potential that even Nintendo hasn't really explored yet. Not to mention that the Wii U still has use of all the Wii controllers, Wiimote included. A big part of the reason the Wii was so "disruptive" is because it was totally out of left field, people didn't see the Wiimote, Wii Sports, and motion controls in general coming. It took the world by storm because it was something fresh and new. You can only do that so many times. It was pretty much a given that Nintendo, nor anyone else, was really going to be able to duplicate that kind of phenomenon, much less in the very next generation.

Thing is, the Gamepad has a lot going for it that needs to be tapped into. It's a regular controller, functionally (outside of it's size), which is something that a lot of "core" gamers complained about Wii for, that they just wanted a "real controller". Well Wii U has that (in addition to the Pro Controller). But it also has the best of what the DS had to offer, on bigger screens. It allows for off-tv play which to a lot of people (me included), especially those who live in a house where they have to share a TV, is huge. It has great motion sensing in it natively, including a "magnetometer" that tracks it's exact position. That's pretty cool stuff. The NFC possibilites, not just for games like Pokemon and Skylanders, but for credit cards and various other things, there's a lot of cool uses Nintendo and third parties could get out of that alone if they tried. No, the Gamepad isn't as "WOW look at that!" as the Wiimote initially was, but I think the combination of all the things that it brings to the table, still makes it, and the system, an attractive product. The problem has never been the Wii U or it's controller, but the sparsity of software. Few people want to buy a system that barely has games on it, and barely anything coming for it for months. If Nintendo can change that enough to matter, and maintain a steady-ish flow of software from here on, the system and it's controller will likely become a lot more attractive to potential customers.

I'm not saying that the PS4 doesn't have a lot going for it, it does. And certainly, it seems to be riding the momentum from E3, even IF that was a (albeit brilliantly) calculated move on Sony's part, seeing as they were considering having the exact same policies MS was espousing. They saw the negative reaction from buyers, and pulled a 180 themselves before it was even readily known that they too were going the same route. They pulled a very smart move in that fashion, and that combined with a solid spate of software coming down the pipeline, along with the system's espoused power levels, it's a very enticing package. And under the $600 that the PS3 originally cost. The PS4 certainly has momentum on it's side, and it can't be argued that Nintendo pissed away whatever momentum they could have had through all those months in 2013 that they themselves simply had no games for their own brand new system.

But, I still stand by what I say. I don't think the "One" will bomb. But I don't think they're going to recover from their own blunders QUITE as easily as some seem to assume. On the other hand, IF Nintendo can get some good bundles out there, get some (actually) good ads running on TV and the internet, show people that they actually have GAMES now, etc., if they can get people interested in their console again, I do absolutely think they could compete. Sony has got to be losing money on the PS4 out of the gate, with that kind of tech and power behind it, for only $400? Even forcing people to pay for PS+ to play online isn't going to make up for that. The Wii U is currently only $50 less than the PS4 is going to be at lauch, but on the other hand, the Wii U will almost certainly come down in price long before the PS4 does. If Nintendo would drop the price by just $50, it would be $100 cheaper, along with a (slowly) growing software library, increasingly strong indie dev support, etc., the Wii U would only become even more attractive a buy.

Like I said, we'll have to wait and see how things unfold. But while I absolutely won't just say "Nintendo is going to win this gen", I will say that barring another mindnumbing software drought, I think they have a strong fighting chance still.

You're ignoring one very important piece of data: attach rate.

The Wii U sold 3+ million units between it's mid-November launch, and the end of December 2013. That's less than two months. Those are really strong sales. NSMBU, despite Nitendo being dumb and putting NSMB 2 on 3DS out just a few months prior, in that same time frame sold around half the system sales numbers. Since then, since the software drought happened, the Wii U hasn't even managed to sell 1 million units in the nearly 8 months of 2013. Odds are, it's actual sales as of this very moment, are somewhere just under about 4 million units. I'd guess 3.7/3.8 or so. As of early August, NSMBU had sold just over 2 million copies. That means that over half of all current Wii U owners bought that game, and that's only retail sales.

So while it's certainly not on par with the mega-sales of NSMB DS or Wii, you must also keep in mind that selling 28 or more million copies for those games, still only accounted for less than a third of DS or Wii total sales. Still a very good attach-rate, but the fact is, the attach rate for NSMBU, as of this exact moment, is better. Who knows how well the game will continue to sell once more people start actually picking the console up again, but 2D Mario games have had a history of "great legs".

reminds you of a certain handheld with 3D in the name doesn't it? gee that thing must be failing hard. rofl. keep up the damage control.

No offense but the 3DS and Wii U have about as much in common as the GameCube and GBA did. Just because one does well doesn't mean much for the other.

People also need to realize the wiis sales mean shit as well 

if the Wii's sales mean shit, what do the PS3's sales mean?

Yes, becoming overconfident and even arrogant. But as it already did it in the past, and it took it a huge effort, heavy losses, and eating humble pie to recover, I think it's quite difficult it will repeat this mistake.
Anyway, nothing is granted to anybody, each competitor run its considerable dose of risk each time it launches a new product, so having some advantages at the start should help, like it always does. It doesn't grant victory, but it's better that starting with a handicap.

I don't know why no one (Including me) has not said that yet.  This pretty much sums up what should be said every time some R-tard says "Well the 3DS soooo... yeah Wii U will do well too!"

It doesn't mean much at all. Each generation is very different from the next, and in the case of Wii -> Wii U, looking to its sales is meaningless.

We are talking about hardware here, every console has its exclusive games. But what  separates WiiU other consoles is its unique controller, and the way Nintendo is handling it, its obviously its main selling feautre. Like Blu Ray was for PS3