toadslayer72 said:
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I would've preferred Cranston as Commissioner Gordon in a Batman reboot. He was great in the Year One Animated film. If he is bald as Luthor all I will see is Heisenberg.
wilco said:
The movie seems to want to make Batman literally older than superman and treat superman like a little punk kid. I don't know of any comic where batman was "mentor" to superman. Superman isn't some circus performer or street kid turned orphan, hes a god, he doesn't need batmans tutelage. One of the cool things about the Superman, Batman relationship in the comics is that they have very different world views, one doesn't influence the other, they simply respect their differences and leave it at that. Superman deserves more respect than WB is giving him. He deserves to be a character with his own moral code and not someone that has to learn his morality from someone else (Apparently batman is going to teach him "not to kill" :rolleyes: ). |
What are you on about? Superman is early to mid 30's and Batman is late 30's to early 40's. Depends on the story. Superman is the first hero to go public (again, depending on the story--lately, the JSA are just assumed to have been at it decades before...and don't get me started on the New 52) and Batman has been in the business longer. Supeman represents the best in humanity, is all powerful, and moral but he's an alien. Batman represents the best in humanity because of his motivation and intelligence.
It's God vs Human.
Batman is able to compete with Superman because he's able to out-think Superman. He's been doing it longer and he always has a plan. That's it. I don't know where you got "mentor" out of all of that. Batman is older, wiser, and less naive. That's it. That's why Batman is a valued member of the Justice League despite having no powers. He's got the best mind on the team.
Batman has also taught Clark some fighting techniques and how to "be scary" before, too. Supes is the big blue boyscout. Criminals know he won't kill (after Zod). Batman doesn't kill either but criminals are scared shitless of him.
People where cynical about Heath Ledger as Joker and people where cynical about Daniel Craig as James Bond. Both turned out fantastic, who know maybe Affleck will as well, he was awesome in "The Town"
Just calm down everybody you can´t change it anyway, its not a Microsoft production.
| morenoingrato said: I will NEVER accept him. Never. Bale will always be Batman. ALWAYS. |
I agree, He has down a great job in the trilogy. I really hope he stays as batman. He nailed that spot. I know they say he is a dick, I don't care, he plays batman Like a pro.
| attaboy said: Batman has also taught Clark some fighting techniques and how to "be scary" before, too. Supes is the big blue boyscout. Criminals know he won't kill (after Zod). Batman doesn't kill either but criminals are scared shitless of him. |
Why in the hell would superman need to learn how to be "scary"? He can incinerate his foes by looking at them!
Superman does not need to learn anything from Batman. What is wrong with supes being a big blue boyscout. Thats his thing, let him be himself.
| attaboy said:
It's God vs Human. Batman is able to compete with Superman because he's able to out-think Superman. He's been doing it longer and he always has a plan. That's it. I don't know where you got "mentor" out of all of that. Batman is older, wiser, and less naive. That's it. That's why Batman is a valued member of the Justice League despite having no powers. He's got the best mind on the team. |
Thats not much of an age difference. If they really wanted to hammer home the "seasoned batman" idea they should have gotten an actor in their late 40's early 50's. In MoS they made superman 33, I guess to drive home the Jesus allegory even more than they already were with damn near every other scene. 33 is not a little boy, he shouldn't be dumb and naive.
I got "mentor" because that is the word thats been getting thrown around a lot. I don't have a problem with batman being a more experienced crime fighter, I just don't like the idea that he would need to teach Superman like hes Clarks Obi Wan, they got two different styles and thats the way it should be.
| MegaManX said: I know I'll get some flack for this, but it's nice to have an American playing an American created superhero again. I also realize that many of them are actually citizens now, but it just seems to be exaggerated how few of these actors were born American. Previously in the Batman series alone, we had Batman, Alfred, Scarecrow, Bane (he should have been played by someone of South American descent), Ra Al Ghul, Miranda, Falcone, Jim Gordan, and the Joker, all played by foreign actors, as well as the director. Not to mention we have Superman, Spider-Man, Wolverine and Thor, Punisher, Mr. Fantastic plus Magneto (old and young), Professor X (old and young), and that is not even getting into some of the more minor heroes throughout superhero films much less the villians. Don't get me wrong they are for the most part talented actors, bleh on Andrew Garfield, but then you got a franchise like Harry Potter and they actually had to research every actors past to make sure they were of full English ancestry, God forbid one of the 8 movies has an American in it, but that won't stop them from peddling it to us. |
okay, okay... out of all of these I'm highlighting two. (Alfred and Thor).
I always thought Alfred was MEANT to be English? And Thor... is from Scandinavian mythology so has no reason to be American.
As for Affleck, I think he can pull off Bruce Wayne. Will reserve judgement on his Batface until I see him :3
how in the hell is Ben Affleck considered a well respected actor is beyond my comprehension
wilco said:
Superman does not need to learn anything from Batman. What is wrong with supes being a big blue boyscout. Thats his thing, let him be himself. |
Hey, I don't write the stuff!
But there have been times where (semi accurate example) a villain knows where a bomb is. Superman would question them and not get an answer. They know Superman wouldn't resort to hurting them to get answers. Batman, on the other hand, always gets answers because they're scared of him. Just how they've been written.
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: are they really mixing crappy Superman with Batman? Then Ben Assfleck is the smallest of their problems. Batman vs. Superman, that's not even jumping the shark, it's more like putting diarrhea instead of caramel and chocolate sauce on your ice-cream...
