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this is gonna be the end of your gaming as you know..bad choice.oh and i'll buy your ps4 order though?



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i just canceled my xbox one order..ps4 is much better deal..killzone,Drive club,infamous second son,the order 1886,Knack,,Naughtydog's PS4 game..the guys devs behind little big planet,and God of war devs are also working on ps4 games..are you out of your mind? plus your gonna pay 500 for xbox one and don't fotget 25$ for the charget kit which comes free with ps4.only 50 for ps plus..60 for xbox one.and party chat,netflix,recording stuff is freee without ps plus..unlike xboxbox which even force you to pay for skype..which is owned by miscrosoft, and it is free eveyrone else.such as iphone/androids,ipads,vita..but why is not free with xbox one? fuck microsoft!



the-pi-guy said:
spemanig said:

Lol, emotions? No. Facts? Absolutely. There's nothing "drone" about irefutable facts and numbers. Try and tell me on thing in that paragraph that isn't 100% true. Can't? Of course you can't. Cute cheap shots won't make me any less correct.

And I like to read and write. Thet isn't "passion." It's being literate.

Emotions, yes.  Facts, no.  Nobody writes an essay for a console simply because he has facts.  3DS was sucking until it got a price cut and some games, Vita has the same problem, PSP had the same problem.  To say the Xbox One would've outsold the PS4 goes against the fact that not only has the Xbox 360 had the price advantage, launched first, etc.  It still came in 3rd.  

PS4 comes from the Sony consoles, they have always done well.  Vita is of no indication for its success.  PSP was not a failure, it was only poor in comparision to the DS.  The best selling handheld ever.  That's a fair comparision.  

To say the PS4 reveal was shit is among the most ridiculous things I've ever read.  It was one of the best shows I've ever seen.  Sony has plenty of successful IPs, you'd have to be crazy not to think they are successful.  Uncharted is practically on the same level as Gears of War, Gran Turismo is slightly less than Halo, but that's not even including other big sellers, LBP, Killzone, God of War, etc. 

Based on the fact that 1.5 billion games were sold on the PS2, I'd assume that people were interested in the system for games also.  You haven't even given any numbers, you're giving your opinion.  


I wrote that much because that's how much fact there was. I like the Playstation brand. My second favorite video game company is Sony. Doesn't stop fact from being fact. The Vita doesn't have the same problem the 3DS was sucking because it had no games. The Vita, contrary to popular beleif, does. It has tons. And most importantly, it already has some of Sony's and the gaming industries biggest franchises. The supposed "killer apps." Uncharted. Little Big Planet. Assasin's Creed. Call of Duty. Rayman. Persona. Need for Speed. If Uncharted can't even hit one million on the thing, what makes you think for a minute second that Killzone or Borderlands 2 will fair even remotely better? If Uncharted and COD can't even 1m, what do you think the eventual Gran Turismo will do? 1.5 million? That will save the Vita? Come one dude.

The PSP wasn't a failure. The PSP Go was. The Vita is a complete indecator if it's success. They follow the same marketing strategy! The reveal was shit. Most people were underwhelmed with it only consider it "good" in a hindsight comparison of the XBO's reveal which was completely atrocious. I never said no one was interested in games who buys Sony products. A large chunk of people who buy Playstation didn't care about games. The rest did. You'd also have to remember the near monopoly the PS2 had on 3rd part games, a monopoly Sony will never be able to get again. Successful IPs? I have no numbers? Here:

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Sales of completely new Nintendo IP's since 2005 that have hit over 5m:

Wii Sports - 81m

Wii Sports Resort - 31m

Wii Play - 28m

Wii Fit - 22m

Wii Fit Plus - 21m

Wii Party - 8m

Nintendogs - 24m

Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day - 20m

Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day -15m

Big Brain Academy - 6m

Professor Layton and the Curious Village -5m

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Sales of every Sony IP that has ever existed that hit 5m in all of history ever until now:

Gran Turismo - 11m

Gran Turismo 2 - 9m

Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec - 15m

Gran Turismo 4 - 11m

We're past 2005 now:

Gran Turismo 5 - 10m

Uncharted 2: Among Theives - 6m

Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception - 6m

Little Big Planet: 5m
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EDIT: Just for fun, Microsoft IPs that sold over 5m since the 360:

Kinect Adventures! - 20m

Halo 3 - 11m

Halo: Reach - 9m

Halo 4 - 8m

Gears of War 2 - 6m

Halo 3: ODST - 6m

Gears of War 3 - 5m

Gears of War - 5m

Kinact Sports - 5m

Forza Motorsport 3 - 5m

Fable 3 - 5m

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The industry is about more than games. It's about money. Sony had that going into the PS2. It doesn't now and the PS2's old fanbase has literally split in two to create the PS3/360 fanbase. Get off the hype train before it crashes starting February 2014.



Red_Hawk-47 said:
i just canceled my xbox one order..ps4 is much better deal..killzone,Drive club,infamous second son,the order 1886,Knack,,Naughtydog's PS4 game..the guys devs behind little big planet,and God of war devs are also working on ps4 games..are you out of your mind? plus your gonna pay 500 for xbox one and don't fotget 25$ for the charget kit which comes free with ps4.only 50 for ps plus..60 for xbox one.and party chat,netflix,recording stuff is freee without ps plus..unlike xboxbox which even force you to pay for skype..which is owned by miscrosoft, and it is free eveyrone else.such as iphone/androids,ipads,vita..but why is not free with xbox one? fuck microsoft!

Why do I have the feeling you never had the X1 pre-ordered to begin with -_-



Why not just get both?
That's why I plan to do. I never got a PS3, so I'm going to get a PS4 and use gaikai to play Uncharted 3 (I beat 2 and I heard to skip 1), TLOU and all the God of War games.



It's just that simple.

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spemanig said:

No. Anyone who thinks that a company who's last three consoles where complete financial failures is a sure fire bet to win based on preorder numbers that have never mattered and the internet forum hype of the smallest percent of people who actually BUY consoles is "DELUSIONAL." Children and COD-heads buy the largest percentage of consoles and that democraphic will see Titanfall vs Killzone and remember that all their live friends will have an Xbox and buy an XBO. Those people don't even know that Killzone, Uncharted, and InFAmous exist, lmao and I won't even get into how indie games don't remotely matter to anyone 

You have to realize that the sole reason the PS4's preorders are so high and the XBO will launch porely is because of a shit PR team. That's it. It has nothing to do with the PS4 being a better product. If E3 came around this year and the XBO revealed with the policies they have now, preorders would be much more even, and if the console was $400 instead of $500, the XBO would without a doubt be ahead of the PS4 in preorders. Or do we not remember how shit the PS4 reveal was. The only reason the PS4 looks good is because it was "not as bad as the XBO." That's comepletely different now. You think the XBO being "the official console of the NFL" means nothing!? You're a joke. Microsoft was going for a competely different audience than the PS4 and the XBO's targeted audience is larger by five landslides.

PS4 targets the nerdy hardcore minority while the XBO targets the casual "dudebro" majority. The people who actually care about free Fifa at launch. The people who actually WANT to say "Xbox. ON." and manage their Fantasy Football leagues. You think that isn't huge!? 

Every successful Sony console had a new and expensive input device build into it. PS1-CD Player. PS2=DVD Player. PSP=Portable DVD player. Or better yet, do you actually believe that Sony's prior successes are NOT due majorly to these inputs!?

You're probably the one who beleives that the PS2's smash success had nothing to do with the built in DVD player that saw crazy expensive anywhere else. 

You don't think the Vita being in the same pesition that the PS4 is in now isn't telling? The DS lead in it's generation. The Wii lead in it's generation. The PSP sold a distant second. The PS3 sold a bombinging second. The 3DS launched well. The Wii U launched well. The 3DS's sale plumeted after launch. The Wii U's sales plumeted after launch. The Vita was revealed to launch a year later. The PS4 was revealed to launch a year later. The Vita was hyped to kill the 3DS. The PS4 is hyped to kill the Wii U and the XBO. The Vita was targeted soley towards hardcore gamers. The PS4 is targeted solely towards hardcore gamers. The Vita had absolutely no new multimedia draw for the first time on a completely new Sony handheld. The PS4 has absolutely no new multimedia draw for the first time on a completely new Sony home console. The PSP's software sales were dwarfed by the competition. The PS3's software sales were dwarfed by the competition. The PSP's exclusives generally sold porely. The PS3's exclusives generally sold porely. The Vita had a great hardware launch. The PS4 will have a great hardware launch.

You can probably imagine how the rest goes and will go. The only difference is that the PS4 has more competition because of the XBO. I can't even call you a fanboy. It's more of complete ignorance and blind eyes. Sony is the ONLY one of the three consoles that is in financial jeopardy and has been for 8 years! These are NUMBERS. And you actually think that a bunch of easily hyped nerds on internet forums will be able to accurately tell you otherwise just because Sony hired a better PR team than Microsoft!? This is the same audience that actually believe that PC gaming actually has a shot at overtaking console gaming we're talking about here. Come off it.


Wow.  Just wow.  I was going to respond to all of this....and then I realized, wow.  

Here are the facts that matter,  the PS4 is a stronger piece of hardware in a market that keeps encroaching closer and closer to the PC gaming market (Where specs are about 90% of the battle).  The PS4 is cheaper (Please don't disregard this as most buyers will put this as their number one priority).  The Xbox brand is garbage outside the 50 states and actually has never even led a generation in sales within it's "largest market".   The pre-order numbers appear to be heavily in favor of the PS4 in every locality across the globe.

Your garbage is irrelevant and one of the biggest fanboy-esque blitherings with no substance I've read here in a long time.  As was the case with this previous generation,  Microsoft simply cannot compete with Sony worldwide.  They simply don't have the audience.  Predicting these sales is easy because quite honestly,  it's a one sided race.   The only battleground will be North America, where again (Pricing will trump all).    

I don't think Xbox One will do 'bad' in North America, I just think it will get blown out of the water in almost every other location across the world.   The further this sales gap becomes, the more people will continue to purchase the console that all of their friends have. The more friends that purchase consoles that friends have the higher the sales gap becomes, the more easily justifiable it is for Sony to obtain exclusive game titles and the easier it is for people to want to jump in and purchase the said console.  

We saw this play out already this past generation. The only key difference was that Sony priced itself out of a competition and released a year late. Once the Xbox had momentum it was hard for Sony to regain it or compensate for the train that had run off the tracks.  Eventually, the sheer amount of quality software, lowering price and familiarity allowed Sony to pick up a lot of steam and surpass the 360.

Sony will win this generation and while I won't go as far as to saying that they will do so in a PS2 type fashion(Most people besides gamers have no reason to upgrade at this point).  I believe they will win in more of a PS1/PS2 hybrid fashion.  



at one point i actually had 2 of them...lol now i got none.i got ps4 though.