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Subie_Greg on 19 August 2013
errorpwns said:
Subie_Greg said:
the-pi-guy said:
errorpwns said:


Basically what I hear from you is "Titanfall isn't on the PS4 SO MICROSOFT HAD TO HAVE PAID!" I'm sorry, but I bet if it was a PS4 exclusive you wouldn't even consider for a moment Sony paid. I don't even have interest in Titanfall or the Xbox One. Actually my next home console will be a PS4, but come on seriously? How biased do you have to get?

MS has a history of buying exclusivity, and Sony doesn't have any money. They are selling buildings just to stay in black.  

When a company doesn't give a reasonable answer when it comes to why it's exclusive, it's because they're being paid.  There is no reason at all, outside of being paid, for Titanfall to be exclusive.  

It has nothing to do with him being biased.  

Thank you sir. I am not being biased at all. Simply saying I prefer a company to just tell the truth. 

Is the truth so bad now or something? We're making a game for this console because of... umm. Just say we signed a deal and are exclusive to the Xbox. 

Except that isn't why. You are being biased since you cannot comprehend the simplest sentences in that article. He pretty much openly stated Microsoft had taken care of the servers. No lying going on. With microsoft providing dedicated servers they saw that is the best platform to go on for their HEAVILY MULTIPLAYER GAME.

Read and comprehended the sentences pretty clearly. They are a small studio. Didn't stop EA from out sourcing the 360 Titanfall game. Microsoft is paying for the servers. For the 360 one too? What about the PC?

I could go on and whatnot. Your trying to insult me in both responses. Clearly you are very passionate about the Titanfall or the Xbox or whatever. Don't give up. Keep fighting the good fight



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dsgrue3 on 19 August 2013
errorpwns said:
dsgrue3 said:
Zappykins said:
I think calling someone a liar is something you really should have some proof to back it up. Saying someone or a company is being paid off when it is just speculation is rather juvenile, to put it politely.


"we need to find a way to have potentially hundreds-of-thousands of dedicated servers"

That's posted verbatim from the OP. Did you miss it? Either this game is going to use the entirety of the cloud, or it's a simple oversight into what this game will actually utilize of MS servers. In other words, if MS had said "the cloud brings potentially 30,000 servers" this windbag would have said "potentially tens of thousands of servers" instead.

errorpwns said:

How much more complicated can it get?

See above.

Honestly, to deny money changing hands here is to deny reality.

Oh please. The burden of proof is on you to prove that money changed hands and so far you've done a terrible job at it. The only money that might have changed hands was Microsoft helping them acquire servers. If Microsoft had paid them off they wouldn't consider making a PS4 game if Titanfall becomes a success. The only person denying reality is you and a few other people who admitted to not throughly reading the article. What a joke.

I appeal to the inference to the best explanation on the matter as proof. 

Given such an obvious PR statement, what does your common sense tell you?



J_Allard on 19 August 2013

LOL this place is awesome to read sometimes.

Sony has a bunch of timed exclusive games on stage at their E3 conference, the response is wow, Sony awesome at supporting games. Sony moneyhats fir a game like Journey, no problem.

MS does those things and everyone starts crying. Never change, VGC.



Solid-Stark on 19 August 2013

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errorpwns on 19 August 2013
the-pi-guy said:
errorpwns said:
the-pi-guy said:

nly game, I said servers can also be done on PS4.  With the success of the game at E3, and the fact that they are already outsourcing the game for the other versions suggest they are positive of it's success.  

  Yoshida said that "of course" PS4 developers will be able to take advantage of cloud-based computing for their titles.

"Linking, matchmaking... there are already many computations being done on the cloud side," Yoshida said, adding that there are limitations to what processes can be offloaded to a remote computer, due to latency and bandwidth.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/12/4424022/sony-shuhei-yoshida-says-ps4-cloud-computing-calculations

Admittingly I did not fully read the article.

"McClandlish also shed a bit more light on the decision to make Titanfall an Xbox exclusive (it'll launch for both Xbox One and Xbox 360 in Q1 2014). "We're a very small team, so we had to pick a platform if we were going to be on consoles," he said, "and Xbox made the most sense."

This part though is lying.  Even though they admit MS helped them with servers, MS is helping everyone with servers, that's the whole point of "Cloud" computing, they're doing that better than Sony it would seem.  It's no reason for exclusivity though.  Especially when EA is so sure of its success.  It'd be very easy for them to move it over to PS4.  PS3 not so much.  Some big exclusives were ported by 2 or 3 people over only a few months.  

Watch_Dogs was supposedly using Cloud for stuff, I thought.  MS helped them set that up of course if they did, and yet it's still coming to PS4, Xbox 360 and PS3.

You completely took that out of context again. "Cloud computing" and "Dedicated servers" Are two entirely different beast.  Cloud computing is offloading processor task to a server elsewhere. Dedicated servers have been around way before cloud computing started taking off. You keep arguing with me yet the only "evidence" you bring up has nothing to do with the subject at hand. I'm beginning to think you don't actually throughly read over the articles before you post it. Dedicated servers =/= Cloud computing. Also the titanfall team is a whole lot smaller than Ubisoft. Do you know how much money Ubisoft is most likely funding into Watch Dogs? I bet a lot more than Respawn can afford to put into Titanfall. Of course Ubisoft can afford to bring Watch Dogs to the PS4 and Wii U and PS3 and Xbox 360 and PC. Whereas Respawn has a lot less to work with. Once again I am going to stress that Cloud Computing and Dedicated servers are not the same.

If Ubisoft can afford to bring Watch Dogs to PS4, etc. then EA can also.  Azure has the advantage over Dedicated servers due only to cost.  MS already has servers, they are just waiting for companies to use them.  Azure can be used for dozens of different things, so MS has to keep all the servers going to be able to be used when they need to.  

Titanfall is not an ambitious game.  It's not doing anything online or offline that other games aren't already doing.  Calculations or sending information, neither of which aren't impossible on current hardware.  

Are you serious? Wow just wow. You do realize that EA doesn't give all their developers the same amount of cash to work with right? I guess not. Also current gen games have PLENTY of latency issues. Due to not having dedicated servers. It's actually pretty horrifying having to go from dedicated servers on the PC in some games to console versions that require cruddy match making and awful host.



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dsgrue3 on 19 August 2013
J_Allard said:
LOL this place is awesome to read sometimes.

Sony has a bunch of timed exclusive games on stage at their E3 conference, the response is wow, Sony awesome at supporting games. Sony moneyhats fir a game like Journey, no problem.

MS does those things and everyone starts crying. Never change, VGC.

At least you admit the moneyhatting; some individuals here seem very blind. It absolutely happens on both sides though.

I think The Witness devs gave similar PR speech about PS4.



colafitte on 19 August 2013

I can't care less about this game, I really don't get the praise it received from the press at E3. It looked for me like a pc game of 2007. It's just a mix of call of duty + battlefield 2142 And the excuse for exclusivity.... c'mon man!!



Subie_Greg on 19 August 2013
J_Allard said:
LOL this place is awesome to read sometimes.

Sony has a bunch of timed exclusive games on stage at their E3 conference, the response is wow, Sony awesome at supporting games. Sony moneyhats fir a game like Journey, no problem.

MS does those things and everyone starts crying. Never change, VGC.


Certainly not crying on my end. If I can BF3 and Arma 3 on my PC. Good bet I can Titanfall as well. Not going to btw. 

I am simply saying I would prefer people/companies to be honest. Stop the PR B.S.

Don't remember Epic doing this everytime a new Gears came out.

Look at Dice. Sony had DLC deal for BF3. Dice comes out and says how useful the cell is and blah blah blah. Only 3rd party to say that lol. Sony gave them money, and Dice polished Sony's knob

Now same thing kind of. Microsoft makes DLC deal for BF4. Dice talks up Xbox One. Microsoft gives them money, Dice polished Microsofts knob. 

EA decided to ally with Microsoft. They liked the Xbox One before the 1080. If everyone rather believe they did so because of cloud computing and not DRM... fine. If you believe it's not Microsoft giving money but rather dedi servers... thats fine too



Euphoria14 on 19 August 2013
Imaginedvl said:
Euphoria14 said:

I guess the joke went right over your head.

 

Try to relax, okay?

Dude... You know that coming and replying that kind of default anwser "try to relax/calm down" hoping to get the support from other posters is not really really working anymore! Esp. when I posted with not one, but two ":)" and "lol" in response to your "joke" :) I guess you did not get mine then... Sad...

BTW I dislike Apple very much... (I do not even know why lol)

I guess we both are terrible comedians then.



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Nsanity on 19 August 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Nsanity said:
I don't know why people are only complaining about Microsoft money hatting, because Sony and Nintendo are doing the exact same thing.


They moneyhat just not as much as Microsoft.

It's still money hatting:

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/e3-2013-assassins-creed-iv-watch-dogs-get-exclusive-ps3-ps4-content

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/412547/grand-theft-auto-5-exclusive-ps3-bundle-announced/

http://www.psu.com/a020417/Batman--Arkham-Origins-Collectors-Edition-has-PS3-exclusive-content?page=0