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Roar_Of_War said:

 


You shouldnt fault jesse when Walt has manipulated Jesse time after time, always put him down, and in general has been an asshole to him.

Yes there has been times Walt has done good things for Jesse but because Walt has lied so much it looks like it was just to have Jesse on his side.  You need to remember that you need to step into the character's shoes.  And to Jesse Walt looks like a manipulative liar and even the good now looks like bad to him.  At one point and time Jesse would have done anything for Walt but Walt went too far.

Also take into consideration of how it would feel to have someon close to you poisoned. 




       

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damnnn, my heart was pounding

when walt was getting arrested...i must admit i was hoping the dudes would show up and kill everyone and save walt (i know im evil lol)

TEAM WALT WHOS WITH ME!



Fuck, last episode was good until that stupid ass shootout at the end. The hit squad that Walt called in had like fuckin 6 guys with automatic or semi-automatic weapons and they couldn't hit two guys who were standing out in the open and they had all day to aim at? That was retarded. Hank's 300 pound ass should be brown bread right now. Same with Gomez.



Marks said:
Fuck, last episode was good until that stupid ass shootout at the end. The hit squad that Walt called in had like fuckin 6 guys with automatic or semi-automatic weapons and they couldn't hit two guys who were standing out in the open and they had all day to aim at? That was retarded. Hank's 300 pound ass should be brown bread right now. Same with Gomez.


Remember a couple episodes ago when they killed 10+ guys with no problem?  I'm guessing they don't want to kill the DEA agents(trouble they don't need), but rather distract them and get Walt out of there, as they need him to cook still.



Fayceless said:
 


Remember a couple episodes ago when they killed 10+ guys with no problem?  I'm guessing they don't want to kill the DEA agents(trouble they don't need), but rather distract them and get Walt out of there, as they need him to cook still.

Good point. But by them drawing the guns on the agents they already have trouble and they can't let them live in my opinion. They went there to get walt is true, but if they needed to they would kill anyone that got in the way



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They had to aim for the car deliberately or those "hitmen" are the worst shooters ever. The episode was good otherwise but the ending gave me major A-Team vibes.



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Under the Dome is okay, if not a little too product-placement-peddling and liberal for my tastes.



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JayWood2010 said:
Roar_Of_War said:

 


You shouldnt fault jesse when Walt has manipulated Jesse time after time, always put him down, and in general has been an asshole to him.

Yes there has been times Walt has done good things for Jesse but because Walt has lied so much it looks like it was just to have Jesse on his side.  You need to remember that you need to step into the character's shoes.  And to Jesse Walt looks like a manipulative liar and even the good now looks like bad to him.  At one point and time Jesse would have done anything for Walt but Walt went too far.

Also take into consideration of how it would feel to have someon close to you poisoned. 

As I already said, there have been things that Walt has done for Jesse that would make absolutely no sense unless he truly cared about him.

Running over those "gangbangers" is just one example of Walt saving Jesse at his own cost and risk. He would have been better off letting Jesse die if all he cared about was the money and his family, but he considered Jesse his family. Walt did not need Jesse at many points already but went out of his way to protect him. He even wanted Jesse back despite having a superior (with practice) partner, for absolutely no reason other than his own happiness.

Which is why Jesse isn't observant. Walt has gone way too far for Jesse's sake too many times for it to be simply wanting Jesse at his side for business purposes. He didn't always even need Jesse. He could have killed him and not risked Jesse turning against him, too. But his own care for him is why Jesse even had the opportunity to betray Walt in the first place, and Jesse doesn't even realize that.



Roar_Of_War said:
JayWood2010 said:

 

As I already said, there have been things that Walt has done for Jesse that would make absolutely no sense unless he truly cared about him.

Running over those "gangbangers" is just one example of Walt saving Jesse at his own cost and risk. He would have been better off letting Jesse die if all he cared about was the money and his family, but he considered Jesse his family. Walt did not need Jesse at many points already but went out of his way to protect him. He even wanted Jesse back despite having a superior (with practice) partner, for absolutely no reason other than his own happiness.

Which is why Jesse isn't observant. Walt has gone way too far for Jesse's sake too many times for it to be simply wanting Jesse at his side for business purposes. He didn't always even need Jesse. He could have killed him and not risked Jesse turning against him, too. But his own care for him is why Jesse even had the opportunity to betray Walt in the first place, and Jesse doesn't even realize that.


Lets say you have a girlfriend.  She is really nice to you sometimes and everything seems to be going smooth.  She will do anything for you.  But she also puts you down constantly, never tells you how she feels, and gets caught lieing to you all the time.  Then next thing you know you find out she has cheated on you.

Would you trust her after that?  Even the good then turns to bad.  This is the mind of Jesse.  He loved Walt at times and even bought Walt a present for his birthday this very season.  But he knows that Walt has lied to him so much, and he knows Walt killed Mike.  And he now knows he poisoned brock.  Jesse may have cared for walt and they have been through a lot together.  But trust is fragile and Walt has broken that trust all by himself.

Trust is one of the most important things in life.  if you cant trust someone, it's hard to love them.




       

Fayceless said:
Marks said:
Fuck, last episode was good until that stupid ass shootout at the end. The hit squad that Walt called in had like fuckin 6 guys with automatic or semi-automatic weapons and they couldn't hit two guys who were standing out in the open and they had all day to aim at? That was retarded. Hank's 300 pound ass should be brown bread right now. Same with Gomez.


Remember a couple episodes ago when they killed 10+ guys with no problem?  I'm guessing they don't want to kill the DEA agents(trouble they don't need), but rather distract them and get Walt out of there, as they need him to cook still.


Ohhhh true, good thinkin my man