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KingdomHeartsFan said:
walsufnir said:

psn-version no option for you?


I'd rather wait for a PS3 price drop then get a new PS3 then get Last of Us main reason is because lets say I buy Last of Us, that is an amazing game and I know I'm gonna want to replay it long after I buy it, if Sony shuts down the PSN on the PS3 and my PS3 breaks then I lost the game forever, and I don't trust my PS3 to keep working, I mean the lense already crapped out, whose to say the console isn't to follow.


I don't know if it works but perhaps you can just buy the crappy 12gb-version of PS3 and then put your current HDD in? And sell your old one on ebay :D



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walsufnir said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:
walsufnir said:

psn-version no option for you?


I'd rather wait for a PS3 price drop then get a new PS3 then get Last of Us main reason is because lets say I buy Last of Us, that is an amazing game and I know I'm gonna want to replay it long after I buy it, if Sony shuts down the PSN on the PS3 and my PS3 breaks then I lost the game forever, and I don't trust my PS3 to keep working, I mean the lense already crapped out, whose to say the console isn't to follow.


I don't know if it works but perhaps you can just buy the crappy 12gb-version of PS3 and then put your current HDD in? And sell your old one on ebay :D


I know its gonna sound like I'm super picky, but I'd rather not have the super slim PS3 and here's why.  With the disc loading mechanisn it has, or whatever its called, when you open it to put the disc in the lense is sticking out in the open (this is an assumption by me, I don't know 100%) so if my lense crapped out and it was protected inside the console then with the Super Slim with nothing protecting the lense I can only imagine it would break too.



KingdomHeartsFan said:
walsufnir said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:
walsufnir said:

psn-version no option for you?


I'd rather wait for a PS3 price drop then get a new PS3 then get Last of Us main reason is because lets say I buy Last of Us, that is an amazing game and I know I'm gonna want to replay it long after I buy it, if Sony shuts down the PSN on the PS3 and my PS3 breaks then I lost the game forever, and I don't trust my PS3 to keep working, I mean the lense already crapped out, whose to say the console isn't to follow.


I don't know if it works but perhaps you can just buy the crappy 12gb-version of PS3 and then put your current HDD in? And sell your old one on ebay :D


I know its gonna sound like I'm super picky, but I'd rather not have the super slim PS3 and here's why.  With the disc loading mechanisn it has, or whatever its called, when you open it to put the disc in the lense is sticking out in the open (this is an assumption by me, I don't know 100%) so if my lense crapped out and it was protected inside the console then with the Super Slim with nothing protecting the lense I can only imagine it would break too.


Hahaha, sorry, no offense, but I had to laugh reading this :) Yes, super picky describes exactly what I thought when reading your post. But I am not making fun of you, I can fully understand what you mean!

I wish you all the best luck with the story of your PS3, hopefully you'll get a cheap one soon!



the-pi-guy said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

So my first PS3 was the slim PS3 and I think I take good care of my consoles, they stay in a TV stand so the least amount of dust gets on/in them.  Now somehow my PS3 lense crapped out, this is the first time I've ever had a lense problem on any of my consoles so I started thinking are blu ray lense just more fragile?  The problem with the PS3 lense is a well known problem and I think is probably more prevalent than the YLOD.  I can say I have never heard of the 360 having any lense problems.  So what do you guys think are blu ray lense just more fragile, or was there just something about the PS3 lense in particular.  

1.)  Blu-ray lenses are apparently more fragile than DVD.  So you can't use DVD lense cleaner on Blu-ray.

1a.) Supposedly it has something to do with being closer.

1b.) I haven't actually found much outside a few users asking about it.  

2.) You haven't tried cleaning it with anything, have you?


I cleaned it with rubbing alcohol, but that was after it already broke.



Only first generation blu-ray have problems. Second generation blu-ray players which become mainstream since 2008 don't have any problems. I think you just have a production failure which can happen. 



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elazz said:
Only first generation blu-ray have problems. Second generation blu-ray players which become mainstream since 2008 don't have any problems.

 

Eh.. what? Any proof for this? Are you talking about PS3-ODDs or Bluray in general?



KingdomHeartsFan said:
walsufnir said:

Surely you are f**** then. But as the lense won't be stressed like this gen, this problem shouldn't be so often like ylod is now. Do other games work?


Well this is how my lense is right now, all dual-layered discs don't work, shame because those are some of my favorite games like MGS4, GoW3, and Uncharted 3.  For single layered discs, when I start up my PS3 it makes this weird ejecting noise then the game doesn't show up on the XMB, if I leave my PS3 on for like 30 min then turn if off and back on then it can read single-layered discs, but still can't read dual-layered discs.  Its really weird.


Try to play a DVD film. Usually, Bluray players have two lenses, one for BDs and other for DVDs, since it's cheaper to manufacture. If it can read DVDs, your Bluray lens is broken, if it cannot, may be other thing, like the motor on the lenses.

I don't know if its cheap to replace this, but it looks relatively simple:  https://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ps3+replace+lens&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDIQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRC1HLdjATSM&ei=edcPUrrGHum32wXHm4CwDA&usg=AFQjCNE6U2zIdA3x0sUj_EsRml6kVRUBFg&sig2=wd_EcYakB9nC3Mkybwgx4A&bvm=bv.50768961,d.b2I

The price is dependant on if you have to replace just the lens or the entire optical unit (PS2 fat demanded that. The PS2 Slim allowed to change just the lens, so it costs like US$ 20, just for an example).



torok said:


Try to play a DVD film. Usually, Bluray players have two lenses, one for BDs and other for DVDs, since it's cheaper to manufacture. If it can read DVDs, your Bluray lens is broken, if it cannot, may be other thing, like the motor on the lenses.

I don't know if its cheap to replace this, but it looks relatively simple:  https://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=ps3+replace+lens&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDIQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRC1HLdjATSM&ei=edcPUrrGHum32wXHm4CwDA&usg=AFQjCNE6U2zIdA3x0sUj_EsRml6kVRUBFg&sig2=wd_EcYakB9nC3Mkybwgx4A&bvm=bv.50768961,d.b2I

The price is dependant on if you have to replace just the lens or the entire optical unit (PS2 fat demanded that. The PS2 Slim allowed to change just the lens, so it costs like US$ 20, just for an example).


DVDs work fine, and when I opened it up i noticed it did have 2 lenses.



KingdomHeartsFan said:
darkknightkryta said:
You played through Uncharted 2 recently didn't you?


Well my lense crapped out like a year or so ago, don't remember if I played Uncharted 2 anywhere near that time, why?

Naughty Dog's engine streams a lot of data from the bluray.  They actually found out while they were making Uncharted 3 that they're streaming technology was too much for older PS3s and they were burning out lenses.  My lense actually died around the time I was playing through Uncharted 2.



darkknightkryta said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:
darkknightkryta said:
You played through Uncharted 2 recently didn't you?


Well my lense crapped out like a year or so ago, don't remember if I played Uncharted 2 anywhere near that time, why?

Naughty Dog's engine streams a lot of data from the bluray.  They actually found out while they were making Uncharted 3 that they're streaming technology was too much for older PS3s and they were burning out lenses.  My lense actually died around the time I was playing through Uncharted 2.


When you say older PS3s, is that only the fat one or the slim too?