It would be more tempting, obviously, but I'd probably still go with the PS4. I just have very little interest in Kinect, so it would be more like they're even in terms of value, though I'm more partial to World Wide Studios.

Also, the PS4 route would make more sense for me personally, as PS+ works for it as well as my Vita and PS3.

Well, I have a gaming PC already for multiplats so it would have to have exclusives that justify a $400 purchase. I can't see that happening for many years down the line for me personally. Also I hate Kinect with a bit of an irrational passion.

I'm affraid they would have to drop the two AA batteries to reach this price...



No matter the price, XO still won't be available in my country for a year or year and a half, so this wouldn't change a thing. PS4 + Wii U all the way in the next gen.

So they take an even larger hit on their bottom line? That would not be a sound business practice AKA they'd be pulling a SONY.

Would I possibly buy one? It'd register on my radar better but here are some facts as to why I can't get excited about the X180.

1) It has a Kinect. Fact is I don't like kinect style games or really any of the kinect features. I don't want to get up and move around, dance around, or otherwise gyrate my body for any reason whatsoever. I do not want to talk to my console to make it do shit either.

2) As an RPG gamer the XBOX brand has been an utter failure. This is a Japanese related issue where MS just can not seem to get traction. Their WRPG offering has been ok but for the most part the Playstation brand has been able to keep up there as well. There just are not enough exclusive WRPG games for XBOX consoles to justify giving up on JRPG games.

3) Despite the number of 180s they've pulled they've already given me doubts. How long before they weedle some of these features back in? Maybe not the current gen, but what about next gen?

1. As far as Kinect goes, if Microsoft doesn't require you to hook it up and they seemingly(Imaginary price drop) aren't charging you for it, wouldn't you just leave it in the box or test it true durabilty from 3 flights up?  So, you just ignore it.

2.  For the RPG aspect, unfortunately there is no answer...

3.  Again, you speak the truth!  Only, i think we will see most(besides online check in for disc based games)of it in some way with 18 months of launch.

Next fall (Q42014) for price drop Rol not Q1. Fair points though. I still stick to the notion that people who buy consoles in the first year or so are less sensitive to the price. It sure would be an incentive for people to switch to X1 earlier and buy the yearly franchises there instead of 360. 

So far these responses are not surprising and are more evidence that MS shouldn't overreact to internet complaints. A lot of them aren't your customers.

It would come down to exclusives at this point. Of the big three they are the weakest at this, but they have Halo, so thats the great equalizer. That and they will pay a third party to keep a hit game away from Sony like Gears. Its looking like Titan Fall will be that game. 

You are incorrect actually

If Microsoft invests 400 million in a American Football partnership, More than 100 million for the controller and around 300 million dollars for the console+kinect not counting in the exclusive deals and first party investment then they want to get their money back. I think they'll get a bad release, much worse than ps3, especially at this pricepoint. Perhaps 399 can change it however it won't really influence the launch I think. More the long run. Microsoft has a big buffer as a company.