Pemalite said:
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Problem is: There is no "standard" platform on PC. Even PC-PC-comparisons are close to unlimited in parameters.
Pemalite said:
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Problem is: There is no "standard" platform on PC. Even PC-PC-comparisons are close to unlimited in parameters.
walsufnir said:
No, such a comparison is of course not legit :) I think PC will easily perform better or have much better IQ even at 1080p. |
Can we all afford 1000$ PC for games right now? its not possible and also the consoles are meant for affordablity so most of the people can enjoy the technology and the games created with it. PC's are always ahead of Consoles in performance so consoles can never match it, but Consoles have some games which PC cannot get and its affordable so many people around the world can enjoy.
So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.
PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.
Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.
Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.
CGI-Quality said:
Cool. No hard feelings either way. My apologies that I came across as insulting, wasn't my intention. |
Thanks, none take and apologie accepted. I don't want to take credit for someone else's work.
Here have some ice cream:
biglittlesps said:
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If you are going to bring prices into the discussion, then you need to know that consoles being cheaper than the PC is false.
Games are far more expensive on console, you pay for online. - Over the life of the system you are paying a premium, that's despite the PC's initial higher hardware costs.
Case in point, the EA humble Bundle, almost $150-$200 worth of games for $5 on the PC.
Plus, everyone pretty much already has a PC, even your 6-7 year old bog standard Core 2 Quad PC is actually very capable at playing games at 720P (Console quality) with a $50-$100 GPU upgrade.
--::{PC Gaming Master Race}::--
biglittlesps said:
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So you admit that your original claim was wrong - at least this. I never cared about the PC having prettier graphics.
Currently I own a 360 and next-gen consoles (sorry, WiiU) will offer much better graphics than the current gen. I don't care if a PC or another console will have (slightly) better graphics as long as the graphics and performance are good in the games I will play.
Heck, millions of mobile-gamers know consoles have better graphics but they still play temple-run.
walsufnir said:
And why are you shifting the topic? First we talked about hardware and now you change it to a talk about exclusives? And of course it's the same architecture now with PC: It is the same ISA. But I see that you can't keep up your claim that PS4 is capable to compete with high-end PC GPUs (again you left out CPUs ;)) so you change your arguments to exclusive-talk and now want to compare PS4 to a $500 pc instead of staying to your original claim about HIGH END GPUs! Well done |
I just gave an example for optimization like how efficiently we can code the hardware using less resounces to achieve better results in my example.
And where we are comparing somethings then we have to compare which are related to each other in many ways not just power but we need to consider Price as well. You can't compare 500$ hardware to 1000$+ hardware. I just meant that PS4 GPU can match High GPU Tier performance since we only need upto 60FPS (Either 30 or 60FPS) in 1080p. In consoles we use the hardware to the peak due to developers have single hardware to forcus so they will meet this unlke PC they cannot focus on every hardware so those High End GPU's have juice left untouched(what's the use of having resounces if we don't use it?).
So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.
PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.
Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.
Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.
Pemalite said:
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I like some of your posts but please let's stop this war. You won't ever convert a console gamer to switch to PC. There are good reasons for PC gamers and good reasons for console gamers. Especially we have read *every* argument at least a thousand times and I doubt that anyone ever thought "Oh my god, how couldn't I see this! I will switch sides!"
Pemalite said: [...] |
Depends. If you're just playing games on PS Plus, you never buy a game, you just pay 5 $ a month and you're good to go. Of course, you don't have the free choice of games, but you also don't have a free choice with offerings like steam summer sales or those humble bundles. If we are talking about retail games, PC games aren't that much cheaper nowadays, at least in germany. Most new titles sell for 50 €, while some big titles (Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, Sim City for example) sell for 60 €, the exact same price of console games. For The Last of Us, I paid 49 €, day one. the price advantage of retail titles on PC is as good as gone around here.
In the end, it all comes down to games. There the PC still has advantages, as there are almost no strategy games or business simulations on consoles. Also, most small titles are PC exclusive because the developers just can't afford licensing costs for consoles. On the other hand, you have those AAA console exclusives. Everyone just needs to know for himself what games he prefers or just buy mutliple systems.
I personally am having a great time right now with Papers, please.
Official member of VGC's Nintendo family, approved by the one and only RolStoppable. I feel honored.
walsufnir said:
Currently I own a 360 and next-gen consoles (sorry, WiiU) will offer much better graphics than the current gen. I don't care if a PC or another console will have (slightly) better graphics as long as the graphics and performance are good in the games I will play. Heck, millions of mobile-gamers know consoles have better graphics but they still play temple-run. |
My only claim is that PS4 GPU has the potential to do games in 30/60FPS in 1080p which High End GPU Tier(can do higher than 1080p and >60FPS but we don't need that in consoles) can do in PC with the better use of optimization, so PS4 can do some great looking games using that hardware from first party Studios. I just want to say that PS4 also has capability of what current High End GPU tier can do and the proof for this is games like Last of Us, God of war, Uncharted and Killzone. I only care about games and never fancy about graphics much but i was just saying that PS4 has better GPU than Xboxone(it can also do great games witht the hardware it has) and it has potentail to what High End GPU's co do(but not matching completely High End GPU's performance), moreover we need only 30/60 FPS in 1080p for Consoles so PS4 has that power to do this since it has tweaks done at the hardware level along with Optimizations.
So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.
PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.
Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.
Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.
walsufnir said:
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My goal isn't to convert people to my platform of choice, I honestly couldn't care less what people play games on.
What annoys me is how people parrot misinformation without looking at the wider scope, so it seems I repeat myself allot on these forums.
Mind you, I've seem some very valid arguments for people wanting to stick with consoles. I.E. Despite the PC having console controllers available, using them online will result you in being badly beaten by the "mousers", thus consoles are a better fit for such people wanting an even playing field.
OdinHades said:
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With Steam you pay nothing, ever. AND you get a selection of free games, with that $5 you can buy yourself a few dozen games a month off humble bundle and keep them forever. (You don't lose them when your subscription runs out.)
OdinHades said: games aren't that much cheaper nowadays, at least in germany. Most new titles sell for 50 €, while some big titles (Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, Sim City for example) sell for 60 € |
Well. Battlefield 3 here in Australia is $10 cheaper on the PC at EB Games. $55 cheaper if you bought into the Humble Bundle.
Steam often has 66-75% off sales.
I'm yet to buy a game at retail price!
I own roughly 450 games across my Steam accounts, that would have been a fortune on console. (Which probably explains why I stopped at 70~ games on Xbox this generation.)
--::{PC Gaming Master Race}::--