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RolStoppable said:
Gehirnkrampf said:

Switzerland - yes it is a own language, but every german understands swiss and vice versa, at least when it's spoken slowly.

Huh?


maybe because it is i am bavarian, but when i hear swiss people talking, i understand the context. not every word, but what it's all about.

and i think swiss people understand germans per default.

the ones who speak italian... could use it.



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Gehirnkrampf said:
RolStoppable said:
Gehirnkrampf said:

Switzerland - yes it is a own language, but every german understands swiss and vice versa, at least when it's spoken slowly.

Huh?


maybe because it is i am bavarian, but when i hear swiss people talking, i understand the context. not every word, but what it's all about.

and i think swiss people understand germans per default.

the ones who speak italian... could use it.

you are a bavarian and you want kinect to understand the same as you do without special commands for this country? that could be fun



More than half of the people living in Belgium speak Dutch, just saying. Than there is a big part speaking French. In Brussels where I live they speak mostly French but there are a lot of Dutch speakers as well. And there is a part where they speak German. However the internet generation speaks English as well :p

So I don't think that language is the main issue here. 



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Gehirnkrampf said:
ethomaz said:
Gehirnkrampf said:
if it were about language they'd just localize the texts and promise to bring voice recognition via update.

Language is a spin off... I'm sure they are having production issues... I think they even didn't started the mass production.

Belgium - they speak french

Netherlands - nearly everyone from the netherlands understands german and very much of them speak it, because it's familiar

Switzerland - yes it is a own language, but every german understands swiss and vice versa, at least when it's spoken slowly.

 

and besides that, pretty much everyone in the EU speaks english on a level which wold be enough for voice commands/kinect.


No majority speaks Dutch, you're making the same mistaker as Microsoft lol.



crissindahouse said:
Gehirnkrampf said:
RolStoppable said:
Gehirnkrampf said:

Switzerland - yes it is a own language, but every german understands swiss and vice versa, at least when it's spoken slowly.

Huh?


maybe because it is i am bavarian, but when i hear swiss people talking, i understand the context. not every word, but what it's all about.

and i think swiss people understand germans per default.

the ones who speak italian... could use it.

you are a bavarian and you want kinect to understand the same as you do without special commands for this country?

i say kinect not understanding swiss should not be the big issue to delay the launch just for that.

73% speak german

23 % speak french

8% italian

----

all these languages are supported. so its clear, localization is NOT the reason behind.

or do you say its better to wait like 4 months for your console to be able to control it in your native language, than getting it now and just use another language for some months?



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RolStoppable said:
They are trolling Switzerland really hard. No Schokli for Microsoft!

That would be "Schoggi" in Swiss German. Indeed, there are boxes for France, Germany and Italy, so the languages in Switzerland would certainly be covered. However, the price difference between PS4  and XBox One is the highest in Europe, so MS might have simply saved themselves the sales fiasco.



Gehirnkrampf said:
crissindahouse said:

you are a bavarian and you want kinect to understand the same as you do without special commands for this country?

i say kinect not understanding swiss should not be the big issue to delay the launch just for that.

73% speak german

23 % speak french

8% italian

----

all these languages are supported. so its clear, localization is NOT the reason behind.

or do you say its better to wait like 4 months for your console to be able to control it in your native language, than getting it now and just use another language for some months?

i would prefer it to be only in english if i could get it earlier. the question is what will magazines, tv channels and so on report if they release the product in their country asking them to speak another language and since kinect seems to be much more integrated in xb1 this could be a serious problem for bad articles and reports.

do you know what the bild would write if xb1 would release in germany and you would have to speak english? as company i would rather like to release it later in and have a perfect or almost perfect working system as to get articles like "half of the product only works like it should if you speak a foreign language"



Gehirnkrampf said:

Belgium - they speak french

Netherlands - nearly everyone from the netherlands understands german and very much of them speak it, because it's familiar

Switzerland - yes it is a own language, but every german understands swiss and vice versa, at least when it's spoken slowly.

and besides that, pretty much everyone in the EU speaks english on a level which wold be enough for voice commands/kinect.

Underlined: Belgium has a very hard line that devides the country into Dutch and French speakers. They don't necessarily speak both languages.

Bold: Really? To put it bluntly, most of us hate the German language. It may be similar in origin, but 90% of the Dutch people can't understand a word of it because it's grammer makes no sense from our point of view. With a little luck people can read it somewhat, but outside of those living at the border there's very few who actually know enough about the German language to even speak simple words.

Italic: Switzerland doesn't have it's own real language. They indeed either speak German, French or Italian. There's a fourth language too but that's only in a very small territory. This does of course make the language point moot, because Germany, France and Italy are supported, so why not Switzerland?  You already have this discussion with others.

I agree on the English part, even if that could be a problem for Mediterranean countries.



ethomaz said:
I happy to be part of tier 1 now


That US$1k+ price tag. I bet the only reason it is launching here is because it won't sell more than 100 units.



yeah i made mistakes, sorry for that. some things i didn't knew better.
but what i tried to point out should be clear.

@crissindahouse:
i don't think that german media would react this harsh. i mean... SVoice from Samsung didn't really work well and no one bashed the S3 because of that. besides - we aren't talking about german not being supported. those countries should be used to missing translation for games etc.



must-have-list for platforms i don't own yet:

WiiU: Donkey Kong

XBone: Dead Rising 3, Ryse