This post made me laugh in real life. 

Huh? You think MK8 is releasing March 21 or whatever day secodn son is?

What I believe is my belief. The rest is objective.

Ok, and what's your point in showing examples very easy to research?

Halo is about shooting. The game may have an infinite number of unreal creatures, but what you do is to shoot. And what you do in Pokemon or Spore is to collect an infinite number of unreal creatures. That's what both games are about.

You are assuming I didn't know about the JRPG niche...and you're wrong. The point is: there is no such game genre. If you tell me that's a type or a style, ok. But then I can tell you american driving games have a proper style that is very different from british driving games. Is there anything wrong with that? No, it's not. Each region has its own culture. But then you can't demand a company from a certain region to adopt the culture of another region. EA is american, not japanese. They don't need japanese type of games to be successful.

No, I just require reality-based graphics. And, if you look at both images of that wikipedia picture, you will notice that, graphic quality aside, both places are quite different. It's simply not copied, it's rather inspired on it. I can be tolerant but not that much. I could also say that Midnigh Club 2 (which is supposedly set in Los Angeles, Paris and Tokyo) has photo-realistic environments. But the fact is that they didn't do the photo-realism process and the result is that I'm racing in a city that resembles Paris but I can't say that's Paris. This is not a matter of graphics. This is a matter of detail.

FPS: imagine a SWAT5 in which I can recruit to my 5-members-team candidates from a range of endless police officers (with different skills and potential) who want to belong to SWAT. In addition, I can train and develop the skills of my team so that they become sharp in the action, they cooperate well with the other team members and they work well under my tactics and style of operation. This has already hundreds (if not thousands) of gameplay variants.

2D platformer and 3D platformer are about the same genre: platformer: a game with more than 100 playable characters, each one with its own way of moving and attacking.

Shoot-em-up: I really don't know the extent of this genre. Do you consider this to be shoot-em-up?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrePMNLWA9g

Puzzle: a game like The Eye Of Judgment

Answer: this measures the depth of a game or the commitment of a developer because online matches with hundreds of players have more lasting appeal and are harder to establish in a game (it demands a lot of work in optimization and other areas).

Yes it is. But "player generated content" is not 1 of the 9 requirements...and it couldn't, precisely because it's much easier to create a game where anything can be player generated content.

No, this criteria obviously proves something that is objective. That objective thing may not be enough to prove that a game was made with a lot of effort and resources. For example, I can have a game settled in a huge and empty outerspace (let's say equivalent to 5000km2). That doesn't demand work and thus that is a flaw in my criteria. Another example is you telling me 3 games that qualify for Nintendo under the same requirement (gameplay with more than 100 variants) and nothing more. There's not a game that qualifies under other requirement. There's not a game that qualifies under 2 or 3 requirements. Plus, 2 of the 3 games aren't even developed by Nintendo. See? My system has flaws. But at least it's a strong filter. First we can see what passes through the filter and then we can assess the results like I just did for Nintendo. That assessment is subjetive. But the initial filter is objective.

My you both have stamina ....

Imagine if you used it for good!

7/7.5 millions

EDIT:  YOU ALREADY ADDRESS THIS POINT (more or less) IN YOUR OTHER POST, WHICH I AM RESPONDING TO, SO YOU DONT HAVE TO REPLY TO THIS INDEPENDENTLY (though of course you can if you wish). 

Hey Zod, I know this particular quote if from your talk with a different person but I've been thinking of bringing this up for a while.  Even your objective parameters are susceptible to subjective judgment.  I'll give you an example.  When you speak of the map size (100, 200, 300km) is that actual playable terrain the player can traverse or simply viewable area?  For traversable area, should we judge a racing game with 100% bare flat surfaces the same as a game with complex terrain with lots of objects and stuff in it?  Et cetera. 

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For one thing, it means that we can actually prove whether it's true, as opposed to the square mileage thing which is so far basically your opinion. 

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Wrong, in Spore you are creating a race, in Pokemon you are capturing INDIVIDUALS within preexisting varieties of Pokemon.  Even if that difference didn't exist, the gameplay in those games is totally different, to the point where it is just a bad joke that you would say they are so alike based on such a superficial similarity (that doesn't actually exist). 

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JRPGs are really, really different from WRPGs.  You appear to have claimed that JRPG and WRPG don't exist as separate genres, and all I can say to that is that practically everyone disagrees with you.  Beyond that, I am not an expert on racing games but I doubt there is such a difference between American and British ones as exists between J/WRPGs; driving on the other side doesn't count.  After a brief search, I turned up this article which suggests to me that there isn't really what you could call a distinct genre difference but just "some British companies tending to make games that are less simulation-style gameplay".  If you can back up your claim that driving games are divided into genres (or "styles") as distinct as J/W/SRPG, British vs. American or non-British, feel free to give your evidence. 

Again, American companies do make "J"RPGs. 

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On older systems like the N64, there is a limit to the detail you could reasonably have, no matter how dedicated the developer. 

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FPS:  I doubt the practicality of such a game system, but I concede that it could be done ... probably poorly. 
Platformer:  I dispute that 2D and 3D are the same genre but concede that you could have 100 characters for both genres, though there would be not much meaningful difference between them and it would detract from the game. 
SHMUP:  No, I don't consider that a SHMUP at all.  One big thing is that it is too focused on level navigation and not enough on shooting enemies.  I gave you like half a dozen examples and a video of one, surely you can go from there. 
Puzzle:  Isn't that a card game?  How is that a puzzle game? 

In summary, it seems to me that shoehorning in that much variation in those areas would make a piss poor platformer.  The FPS could possibly be done well in theory.  EOJ works if you can prove it should be considered a puzzle game.  I don't know the game well but from wikipedia it sure doesn't sound like a puzzle game to me. 

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Lasting appeal is purely your opinion, and harder work is arguable. 

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The point is, if your objective criteria don't actually prove anything about how much work went into the game, then it's not really a filter for quality.  It's just a filter that some games are more likely to pass than others irrespective of their quality.  That renders the whole exercise pointless.  We could instead talk about things that, while being subjective, actually directly have to do with the quality of the game.  But I respect if you don't like to do that for whatever reasons you stated earlier that I don't recall offhand. 

Yes, the date is March 21st, 2014 It fits in line with Nintendo's current software release strategies. I'm actually predicting this will occur: Mario Kart 8 will get a bundle but that's an obvious one but I'm also expecting a WW release to coincide with the bundle.

Fair do tho as a mod do you QC threads before theyre live as this one is just crazy talk. 

In terms of BF sales, it`s hard to predict how it will do when we have reports that the mario bundle is selling out and at the same time that it`s shipments aren`t high to begin with.
In that sense, it`s hard to gauge the real appeal of Wii U and the actual bundle.
Also, the Skylanders bundle for NA might add something to the sales.

I think that if stores decide to order more than they are doing now, numbers may surprise us.