KH 3 is gonna come out in 2015, I explained why in another thread and am too lazy to type it all out again so you can check it out if you want, I know its shameless lol

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=163903&page=1

There does seem to be a pattern to it. Though the entries weren't really main games, so I imagine a full blown kh3 would take a bit of time assuming that kh3 just entered into development. It could make it by holiday 2015 I guess. Thats assuming ff15 comes out in 2014 since I believe they'll def release that first. Is there an actual release date for ff15 yet? So I guess something like this for ff and kh titles then?

Holiday 2013-Final Fantasy 14, KH Hd 1.5 Remix

Feb 2014-FF 13 Lightning Returns

Holiday 2014-Final Fantasy 15

Holiday 2015-KH3

*Warning, long read ahead*

Well Square managed to pull out FF 13-2 2 years after 13 and FF lightening returns 2 years after 13-2.  My whole arguement is based on that the game were made by the same team so if they are not then disregard it.  So by now I think Square Enix has the main story components of KH3 basically set in stone, I mean they have to with all those spin offs, so they won't be wasting time on that.  I don't think they will put AAA graphics in the game because its been so long since the last console KH game and SE isn't sure it can still pull the big numbers, especially given the lack luster sales of the handheld games, so I don't think the graphics portion will take as long as the FF games I mentioned which only took 2 years to make.  They also have said they have some major gameplay features decided.  Tetsuya said if you have played DDD then the combat in KH3 will be familiar, which obviously I think he is refering to Flow Motion.  They basically already know how to do Flow Motion so I think all they have to do is fine tune it from DDD.  Also Sony said it only takes 3 months to code for the PS4 vs I think it was 7-9 months for the PS3, somewhere around there, so if they could get those FF games done in 2 years on the PS3 I think KH3 on PS4 shouldn't take as long.  I don't know any details on coding or whatever so take that with a grain of salt, tha is basically all I know about it.  So anyway that's some of the reasons I think it will only take 2 years to make, I think they are way further in development than people think.

Didn't Nomura say that he would start working on kh3 after ff15 was near completion? Assuming that ff15 is then kh3 would only be starting development now. I believe it will run on the next gen luminous engine so the graphics will prob look nice in general. I think the figures you posted were for porting games to the ps4. It was from pc to ps4 I believe. I don't think thats the same as building a game from the ground up. Though, it still remains that the ps4 is alot easier to program for. This whole things depends on if they announce ff15 for 2014 release too, which I really hope they do. The gameplay mechanics prob are mostly figured out if they are using mechanics from the handheld prospect. With square, I'm never really sure when they release anything really. I had thought ff13 vs would have come out after 13, but instead we got -2, and lightning returns.

I hope I'm wrong and they do use the luminous engine and go all out, but I highly doubt it.  I mean SE is not in a good spot financially and I think they want to take as little of a risk as possible so I think they are gonna use more of a cartoony art style that will not require as much detail in the environments.  Don't get me wrong I still think it will look good, but not what is considered AAA calibar game.  Also Soriku told me the Osaka team is making KH3, not the original KH team which is making FF15, so I don't think the release of FF15 will have any effect on the release of KH3.  Also the Osaka team were the ones that made DDD so I don't think it will be hard for them to implement Flow Motion into KH3.  Now I could be wrong and the Osaka Team is not big enough and they are waiting for the oringal KH team to finsih FF15 and join in on development for KH3.

Oh, thats was just my assumption that most future se titles would use that engine. I could be wrong though. I guess they could be using some kind of modified engine from this gen kind of like the one that cod uses for next gen. Even if they do use the next gen engine, they might not flesh/max it out as much. I'm not sure a 3ds team can take on a full fledged title that is coming to both xbox one and ps4. It will prob be a collab like how ready at dawn that mostly did vita and santa monica are making the order 1886. Thats assuming like you said how big there initial team is overall though.

That's surprising, but also a little scary.  If KH3 doesn't do well its probably gonna be a long time before we see another entry.  Also if this is the case then I think they would have to expand the Osaka team a lot, or the game would take way to long to come out, or they really are waiting for the original KH team to finsih with FF15 then join in.

You were right, according to Soriku, Nomura said they are looking into the luminous engine for KH3 and it would be a rival production to FF15.  Honestly I wish they wouldn't make it a rival production to FF15 because I don't think it will pull out those high console number the first 2 games had and if it does flop SE could drop the franchise to only handheld games.  I guess we'll have to wait and see how well 1.5 HD Remix sells, obviously its not expected to sell millions of copies, but I think we can compare it to FF X/X-2 HD and scale how well the series is doing.

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Anyway, that seems sensible, so Square Enix won't do it

hmm forgot they were coming out with that. So...

Holiday 2013-Final Fantasy 14, KH HD 1.5 Remix, Final Fantasy X-X2 HD

Feb 2014-FF 13 Lightning Returns

Holiday 2014-Final Fantasy 15

Holiday 2015-KH3

lol, so true. This list is all going on the assumption that 15 will even come out in 2014.