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BloodyRain on 08 August 2013

Wow ps4. This is going to be one crazy holiday season with next gen coming.



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Augen on 08 August 2013
brendude13 said:
I'm guessing the pre-orders for Xillia are pretty damn good?

Even as someone who is really excited to play it and is waiting for it to arrive in the mail any day now I have to admit those numbers seem too good.

If it can achieve 75% of that as FW sales I'd be very happy.



outlawauron on 08 August 2013
pezus said:
007BondAgent said:
outlawauron said:
007BondAgent said:
outlawauron said:
Phew, you're using shipped numbers to compare to what VGC said is sold. While it's very likely to be undertracked, there are still hundreds of thousands of copies on store shelves.

Those numbers are way to precise to be considered "shipped" and where in the article does it say these numbers are actually shipped? or any article regarding these sales for that matter

Anyone time a publisher releases sales information, it is ALWAYS shipped. The only way we can know how much something has been sold (ie. from retailers by you and me) is whenever a tracking service (ex. NPD, Media Create, Famitsu, Chart Track, etc.) release numbers. They're the only ones that have this information.

Nintendo does do some internal tracking for Europe, but that's done in coordination with European trackers.

Once again, the numbers are far to precise to be shipped, and your acting like recieving raw numbers is impossible, and what about gears of war 3's first week numbers? they weren't shipped at all.. so that kind off ruins the always part off your comment

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html

Shipped or sold?

Receiving raw sales numbers (to consumers) is borderline impossible.

That's a release of the number of copies that were shipped to retailers (GameStop, WalMart, etc.). You should know this pezus.

There's hardly new copies of those games left on shelves, so the sold number isn't far from that.



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zorg1000 on 08 August 2013
pezus said:
zorg1000 said:
pezus said:

I'm just saying that there is a trend for Pokemon sales declining in the West, with the only exception being Diamond/Pearl thus far. Black/White 2 being a bit undertracked does not change the point at all.

My conclusion is based on history. You denied said history that bananaking decided to use for his prediction. I'm just saying that this history is right, and thus there wasn't anything "stupid" about his post.

Black/White 2 should not be up there, its not a nee gen and is the equivelent of Crystal/Emerald/Platinum

While I haven't played it, BW2 to my knowledge is a completely new game while Crystal/Emerald/Platinum are older games with some new features.

They are all new games but just expand upon there respective generation. B/W2 Iis the same gen as B/W.



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S.Peelman on 08 August 2013

pezus said

stuff about Pokémon in a discussion with some other people and then, together with others, made a conclusion about the series declining.

To be fair, you can't really conclude the series declining though, because there isn't enough to compare.

Generation on generation, Pokémon sales have indeed went up: the first game on DS, Diamond/Pearl, outsold the first game on GBA, Ruby/Sapphire.

Of course it's not unnatural for a game newer than another to have lower sales due to legs, so it's no surprise Black/White has sold less than Diamond/Pearl. Secondly, Diamond/Pearl's third game, Platinum, outsold Ruby/Sapphire's third game, Emerald. The pattern is the same during the GB generation, only that generation sold the most yes. It goes GB > DS > GBA. So after a low point during the GBA generation, sales of the series went up during the DS generation. Personally, I don't see why it would decline again but that's besides the point. I have no agenda here, so I don't really care either way.

The actual problem is though, that the GBA didn't have a second main-line Pokémon game to compare Black/White to and thus also no third game to compare Black/White 2 to. Also, the remake on DS, Heartgold/Soulsilver, outsold the remake on GBA, thingy/thingy. Comparing X/Y pre-orders to Black/White pre-orders makes no sense in any way anyway.

The only really fair thing to do right now is compare X/Y pre-orders to Diamond/Pearl pre-orders, because they both have the same context, and draw your conclusions from there.



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Daisuke72 on 08 August 2013

tbh I wouldn't be surprised if the series was declining because I had less fun with Pokemon Diamond and Pokemon Black than any other games in the series, the quality and fun of them have dropped drastically since Gold/Silver version, in my opinion.



DracoBlade on 08 August 2013
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LOL ppl are still hopeful this thing is coming at all let alone the ps3?



S.Peelman on 08 August 2013
pezus said:
S.Peelman said:

pezus said

stuff about Pokémon in a discussion with some other people and then, together with others, made a conclusion about the series declining.

To be fair, you can't really conclude the series declining though, because there isn't enough to compare.

Generation on generation, Pokémon sales have indeed went up: the first game on DS, Diamond/Pearl, outsold the first game on GBA, Ruby/Sapphire.

Of course it's not unnatural for a game newer than another to have lower sales due to legs, so it's no surprise Black/White has sold less than Diamond/Pearl. Secondly, Diamond/Pearl's third game, Platinum, outsold Ruby/Sapphire's third game, Emerald. The pattern is the same during the GB generation, only that generation sold the most yes. It goes GB > DS > GBA. So after a low point during the GBA generation, sales of the series went up during the DS generation. Personally, I don't see why it would decline again but that's besides the point. I have no agenda here, so I don't really care either way.

The actual problem is though, that the GBA didn't have a second main-line Pokémon game to compare Black/White to and thus also no third game to compare Black/White 2 to. Also, the remake on DS, Heartgold/Soulsilver, outsold the remake on GBA, thingy/thingy. Comparing X/Y pre-orders to Black/White pre-orders makes no sense in any way anyway.

The only really fair thing to do right now is compare X/Y pre-orders to Diamond/Pearl pre-orders, because they both have the same context, and draw your conclusions from there.


Oh, I don't disagree with most of that stuff. But there are more ways to look at it, and someone's prediction isn't stupid just because he looks at it a bit differently. What you did here is what should be done instead of calling something stupid without really saying why it's stupid.

Agreed, and agreed.

Who knows, you could be right in the end after all .



Dark_Feanor on 08 August 2013

So, VGChartz, do you want me to belive that COD Ghosts on the PS4 preorders are TWICE as many of the 360 preoders this week???

Well, this dosen´t make sense at all.



Dark_Feanor on 08 August 2013
ethomaz said:
Guys...

Three weeks ago: PS4 DAY ONE bundles sold out in all retails.
Two weeks ago: All retails received new batch from Sony... new PS4 DAY ONE bundles available
Last week: PS4 DAY ONE bundles sold out in all retails again.

That's the reason for the BOOST.

So, you are telling that retailers received a batch,... a batch, of a product that is not been manufactured or shiped any where in the world?

So, out of the blue, duzens of thousands americans rush to Game Stop and Amazon and preordered PS4 games that every body knows won´t suffers any supply issues... only PS4, no PS3, no 360, no One boost, only PS4 games...

Ok, I belive in that.

VGChartz numbers for preorders are a mess. But this last week was a affront.