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Zero999 on 01 August 2013
reggin_bolas said:
Seece said:
reggin_bolas said:

It's just an opinion but homosexuality is offensive to all human senses. It's blatantly unnatural (and no, just because it occurs doesn't make it natural).

It's not an evolution because it has occured for as long as we have been on the planet. It is a societal evolution though; one which proceeds pari passu with progressive liberalism and atheism. 


Except yes, because it just occurs it makes it natural, nothing unnatural about it.


Because cannibalism occurs its natural. Because pedophilia exists it makes it natural. I think you need to rethink what you wrote. Natural means meaningful or purposeful by design. The cosmos is not without error and deviation. 

just a hint for you, homosexuality doesn't negatively impact the two or more involved in the act.



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reggin_bolas on 01 August 2013
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
reggin_bolas said:

A question for you gay-rights sympathizers. Do you find the idea of polyamory morally acceptable? Should people be allowed to marry more than one spouse? I ask because that's the future of civil rights advocacy.

You people intend to deconstruct (viz, destroy) the concept of family and that will pretty much be the end of this civilization.


Yes, I do. Given that everybody involved are consensual.


I applaud your honesty. At least your beliefs resonate with the socio-political developments in the West. I am on the other hand not okay with it hence why I fight back.



ninetailschris on 01 August 2013
reggin_bolas said:
Zero999 said:
reggin_bolas said:

It's just an opinion but homosexuality is offensive to all human senses. It's blatantly unnatural (and no, just because it occurs doesn't make it natural).

It's not an evolution because it has occured for as long as we have been on the planet. It is a societal evolution though; one which proceeds pari passu with progressive liberalism and atheism. 

something occurring in nature is exactly what makes it natural.

ressurection for example, is unnatural. but then again almost everything around us is unnatural: our clothes, technology, houses, medical treatments... but ironically people only persecute what litteraly only involve other peoples's asses.

Too simple of a definition. Cannibalism is a human behavior known to occur in nature. But this is an extremely deleterious practice that has serious neurological consequences like creutzfeldt jakob disease. You have to look at the design of nature. What was is designed to be? The cosmos is prone to error occassionally. Anamolies exist but just because they exist don't make them natural.

I think he is arguing everything is natural unless supernatural. I don't know if he is arguing if natural then it is right. That would be fallacious. But again I don't know what he is arguing.



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chapset on 01 August 2013
ListerOfSmeg said:
chapset said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
chapset said:
ListerOfSmeg said:
Here is the real issue people never seem to look at.
When you start making it a law that a certain group with a different sexual preference has the right to practice sex how they see fit, it opens up the doors for the others to come forward and claim the same rights

As we speak pedophiles, Nambla, and scientist and therapist are now pushing to change the definition of rape and child rape.
If one persons unnatural sex life is accepted then we have to accept everyone elses sexual preferences too because they also cannot help it.
Pedophiles cannot help how they feel. They were born that way so it should be perfectly fine for them to have sex with children. According to gays they cant help it so it should be accepted so now according tot hem pedophiles are okay too. rapist cannot help their sexual urges so their rights should be protected too.

If its how someone was made, then it should be okay for them to live that life..Isnt that what many of you said here yourself... Then you must also except every other persons sexual preferences because they were born that way.

I think there is a difference between two consenting adults and grown ups having sex with children who are not develop enough to be consentant, same thing for rape where one of the individual is not consentant at all.


Nope sorry, you cant have it both ways. We need to accept gays cause they were born that way well pedophiles and  rapist are born that way too. In ancient times and even up til 100 years ago or so we allowed people as low as age 12 to be married. If they could make that decision then, they can make it now. Besides those kids may also be born that way and like being with older adults. Its their right if they wish to do what makes them happy.

 

You cannot say only certain people get to be how they were born to be but everyone else has to conform to set standards.

key word, CONSENTEMENT


Key words. Born that way.. Stop trying to justify your bias and double standards. If a child consents to sex and that is what he wants, he should be just as free as any homosexual person to explore those feelings with whomever they wish. Much the same way you want gays to have every right to do and say and act however they please.

again kid. BORN THAT WAY. If you cant argue the point then you obviously dont have anything to offer or back up your side of the argument

 

Want to comment back? Explain why one group gets to live life however they see fit cause they were "born that way" but another group also" born that way" does not. Many people have sex at or around 13. What difference does it make what age the other person is if that is what the person wants?

You cant do it. You cannot do it without showing your bias and doublestandards. Like most gays you dont want equality. you want superiority. You want your lifestyle accepted while everyone else lives in fear and hides.

First you say gay people are the same as rapist don't you see how dumb that is? second the vast majority of pedophiliacs relationships are kids being abused by their relatives if you to blind to see the difference between those and two adult agreeing to have sex go argue with someone else. That's not double standard that's freaking common sense and finally who the fuck lives in fear of gays do you think you can attract gayness or what



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reggin_bolas on 01 August 2013
Zero999 said:
reggin_bolas said:
Seece said:
reggin_bolas said:

It's just an opinion but homosexuality is offensive to all human senses. It's blatantly unnatural (and no, just because it occurs doesn't make it natural).

It's not an evolution because it has occured for as long as we have been on the planet. It is a societal evolution though; one which proceeds pari passu with progressive liberalism and atheism. 


Except yes, because it just occurs it makes it natural, nothing unnatural about it.


Because cannibalism occurs its natural. Because pedophilia exists it makes it natural. I think you need to rethink what you wrote. Natural means meaningful or purposeful by design. The cosmos is not without error and deviation. 

just a hint for you, homosexuality doesn't negatively impact the two or more involved in the act.


Don't give me any hints! I'm more educated and sophisticated than you. You look at the design of the human body and you will come to the conclusion it was only meant to engage in intercourse with another sexually-mature female. The anus is not designed to handle penetration. It ruptures easily and can develop polyps. Same thing with oral sex, studies show a link between oral sex and increased risk of mouth and  throat cancer. This leads a rational person to conclude that the sexual union between a man and a man is unnatural. Same principle with women, only behavior leading to procreation is natural by virtue of our biological design.



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Jay520 on 01 August 2013
reggin_bolas said:
chapset said:
reggin_bolas said:
chapset said:
Gay people were always present, look at ancient Rome were they had orgies with only males, it went out of style for a while because of religions and other factors, by that I mean people would hide their sexual attraction to the same gender, now it's back because it's not as frown upon like it used to be.


Of course it's always been present. It still doesn't justify open practice. There is nothing to imply that we should accept same-sex marriage or public display of affection of the same.

Why the fuck you care about what consentent adults do

Because by giving them rights of marriage; they are looked upon as equals as between men and women which is patently offensive.



What prevents them from being equal?

Wright on 01 August 2013
reggin_bolas said:


Don't give me any hints! I'm more educated and sophisticated than you.


I just realize that you're merely a poor troll. I thought you were better than that.



reggin_bolas on 01 August 2013
Jay520 said:
reggin_bolas said:
chapset said:
reggin_bolas said:
chapset said:
Gay people were always present, look at ancient Rome were they had orgies with only males, it went out of style for a while because of religions and other factors, by that I mean people would hide their sexual attraction to the same gender, now it's back because it's not as frown upon like it used to be.


Of course it's always been present. It still doesn't justify open practice. There is nothing to imply that we should accept same-sex marriage or public display of affection of the same.

Why the fuck you care about what consentent adults do

Because by giving them rights of marriage; they are looked upon as equals as between men and women which is patently offensive.



What prevents them from being equal?


I don't understand your question. Validating same-sex marriage is the same as openly accepting the practice of homosexuality as for as morality is concerned.



Zero999 on 01 August 2013
reggin_bolas said:
Wright said:
reggin_bolas said:

Where did I ever use the Bible to justify my assertions? Not a hard pill to swallow at all, these "countries" you refer to is Europe which is overwhelmingly leftist. In the US you still have a divide. 

Those who favor homosexuality are almost always politically leftist. If you take away the politics and religion behind homosexuality you end up with a common sense position which does NOT favor homosexuality. It is naturally offensive to an unbaised person. 


...because all unbiased people are straight?


I'm sure there are homosexual persons who know what they do is wrong and who aren't politically indoctrinated or religiously indoctrinated. 

people can THINK homosexuality is wrong, just like you're doing through the whole topic. but it's not wrong no no one can "know' it's wrong.



Jay520 on 01 August 2013
ListerOfSmeg said:
Here is the real issue people never seem to look at.
When you start making it a law that a certain group with a different sexual preference has the right to practice sex how they see fit, it opens up the doors for the others to come forward and claim the same rights

As we speak pedophiles, Nambla, and scientist and therapist are now pushing to change the definition of rape and child rape.
If one persons unnatural sex life is accepted then we have to accept everyone elses sexual preferences too because they also cannot help it.
Pedophiles cannot help how they feel. They were born that way so it should be perfectly fine for them to have sex with children. According to gays they cant help it so it should be accepted so now according tot hem pedophiles are okay too. rapist cannot help their sexual urges so their rights should be protected too.

If its how someone was made, then it should be okay for them to live that life..Isnt that what many of you said here yourself... Then you must also except every other persons sexual preferences because they were born that way.


The argument that homosexuality should be accepted has little to do with the fact that "its just the way people are". It's based on the fact that it doesn't harm anyone. So there's no reason to reject it. If there's no reason to reject something, then it should be accepted by default.