naruball said:
Wright said:
reggin_bolas said:
Classic desperation. When you homosexuals lose arguments you resort to the usual personal attacks. Same thing with minorities, if you keep disagreeing with them they will eventually call you racist.
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You keep ignoring me, though. I've proven that those who actually led to mankind's greatness (you know, the ancient greek) accepted homosexuality.
And Plato was bisexual. You should read Bouquet. (Or whatever his notes about love and romance was called)
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Sorry, dude but that's not true. There is no way to determine whether he was straight, gay or bi. I'm a classist, doing a phd and the Symposium (means "the banquet") is part of my research. Seems to me that you haven't read it. Basically in the dialogue there are 7 main speakers, one of which is Socrates and only one of the seven talks about men being born with two heads, four arms etc and being split into two and seeking their other half their entire lives. There's no indication which speaker Plato agrees the most with. No serious scholar has writen any articles on Plato being bi or whatever. That would be nothing but speculation. Even if we assume that Socrates expresses Plato's views, in this dialogue, Socrates does not talk about love between men or women specifically. He talks mostly about love between men and women (with only a few ambiguous passages).
Also, another misconception is that homosexulity was acceptable in Greece or Rome around 5th-1st cBC. It wasn't. Only certain types were acceptable and everything else heavily criticized. I'm not gonna go into detail, as I don't know if anyone wants to hear about it. Just wanted to point out that that's a common misconception.
As for the topic, Spurge was specific. If you disagree with homosexuality, stay out of this thread. Not sure if certain people here have bad comprehension skills or simply can't help themselves. If it's the latter, then they need to get some professional help, as it seriously doesn't affect their lives, but their words and actions affect those of others. Such hatred is misplaced and should thus not exist.
Anyway. To answer the question, it's definitely not evolution as many people rightly pointed out, but it does seem to me to be an anomaly. And I don't say that in a disrespectful way (I'm gay myself). It's just outside the norm along with so many other things in life. We're all different in a way; it's just that we focus on some things that are different over other things. Some people are lactose intolerant, some others have insanely good memory, others incredibly good/fast metabolism. I think all these are anomalies (i.e. ouside the norm), but so what?
As for the argument about the "unbiased" "majority" thinking that homosexuality is bad, digusting, etc, the same thing could have been said about the majority of people 50 years ago and their feelings towards interacial couples, women voting/having equal rights and so on. The majority didn't like Black people for being black and I'm sure they felt unbiased, but that didn't make them any less wrong.
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