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Ji99saw said:
It's Florida, so it seems legit. I hope they are fired but knowing Florida they will probably get promoted for shooting a 60 year old black man.


How about we wait to pass judgement untill we here the whole story.  This story says that a person called 911 when they seen him reaching in the car.  It also says that police confronted him while he was reaching in the car....I don't care where you live, the police do not show up in 30 seconds.



Stop hating and start playing.

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BuckStud said:
Ji99saw said:
It's Florida, so it seems legit. I hope they are fired but knowing Florida they will probably get promoted for shooting a 60 year old black man.


How about we wait to pass judgement untill we here the whole story.  This story says that a person called 911 when they seen him reaching in the car.  It also says that police confronted him while he was reaching in the car....I don't care where you live, the police do not show up in 30 seconds.

30 seconds?  The phone wouldn't of even gotten done ringing before the black man shoudl have been done reaching into his car.  The black man should have already been in his house before the neighbor got off the phone with 911.  

The cops would have had to be there before she even called 911 in order for this story to work out.



DamnTastic said:
He's BLACK!! RACISM

My thoughts exactly.



Kasz216 said:
fordy said:
Kasz216 said:
fordy said:

Here's a suggestion to Florida residents: Why don't you get to KNOW your neighbours? Much easier than having confrontations...


You must have never lived in a poor/lower class neigherhood.

 

If you know your neighbors,  Your Neighbors know yur schedule... which means your ass is getting robbed while your at work.


What's that? People should NOT talk to their black neighbours on the basis of fear of having their stuff stolen by them?

Thanks for justifying my point.


Where did I say Black?  That's a weird racist assumption right there...

Black, White, Hispanic, in the wrong neighberhood getting to know your neighbors is the eaisest way to get your house robbed by a tweaker.

For example anytime anyone in the area i work at gets thrown in jail, the first thing that happens is their is a huge rush to get to their house between those who'd like to rob him, and anyone loyal enough to protect their stuff.

 

Crime isn't race dependent... it's not really wealth dependent either like you would think.  It's mostly location dependent.   Poor city areas, that's where crime thrives.   Granted Black people do commit an inordinant amount of crimes, but that's because they live in these areas more frequently, it doesn't have anything to do with race.


So why give the assumption that people are guilty until proven innocent? Besides, communities that are more social towards each other tend to have less crimes commited to neighbours BY neighbours. This applies to ALL communities, not just the low class.



Standard protocol my ass. Even if he WAS involved in the vehicle thefts, how in the world can gunfire be the appropriate response? Is a person's life worth less than a car?



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fordy said:
Kasz216 said:
fordy said:
Kasz216 said:
fordy said:

Here's a suggestion to Florida residents: Why don't you get to KNOW your neighbours? Much easier than having confrontations...


You must have never lived in a poor/lower class neigherhood.

 

If you know your neighbors,  Your Neighbors know yur schedule... which means your ass is getting robbed while your at work.


What's that? People should NOT talk to their black neighbours on the basis of fear of having their stuff stolen by them?

Thanks for justifying my point.


Where did I say Black?  That's a weird racist assumption right there...

Black, White, Hispanic, in the wrong neighberhood getting to know your neighbors is the eaisest way to get your house robbed by a tweaker.

For example anytime anyone in the area i work at gets thrown in jail, the first thing that happens is their is a huge rush to get to their house between those who'd like to rob him, and anyone loyal enough to protect their stuff.

 

Crime isn't race dependent... it's not really wealth dependent either like you would think.  It's mostly location dependent.   Poor city areas, that's where crime thrives.   Granted Black people do commit an inordinant amount of crimes, but that's because they live in these areas more frequently, it doesn't have anything to do with race.


So why give the assumption that people are guilty until proven innocent? Besides, communities that are more social towards each other tend to have less crimes commited to neighbours BY neighbours. This applies to ALL communities, not just the low class.


Certiantly isn't the case in the communty I work in.   Everybody knows everybody.   Everyone is friends with everybody.  Everybody robs everybody.



fordy said:
Kasz216 said:
fordy said:
Kasz216 said:
fordy said:

Here's a suggestion to Florida residents: Why don't you get to KNOW your neighbours? Much easier than having confrontations...


You must have never lived in a poor/lower class neigherhood.

 

If you know your neighbors,  Your Neighbors know yur schedule... which means your ass is getting robbed while your at work.


What's that? People should NOT talk to their black neighbours on the basis of fear of having their stuff stolen by them?

Thanks for justifying my point.


Where did I say Black?  That's a weird racist assumption right there...

Black, White, Hispanic, in the wrong neighberhood getting to know your neighbors is the eaisest way to get your house robbed by a tweaker.

For example anytime anyone in the area i work at gets thrown in jail, the first thing that happens is their is a huge rush to get to their house between those who'd like to rob him, and anyone loyal enough to protect their stuff.

 

Crime isn't race dependent... it's not really wealth dependent either like you would think.  It's mostly location dependent.   Poor city areas, that's where crime thrives.   Granted Black people do commit an inordinant amount of crimes, but that's because they live in these areas more frequently, it doesn't have anything to do with race.


So why give the assumption that people are guilty until proven innocent? Besides, communities that are more social towards each other tend to have less crimes commited to neighbours BY neighbours. This applies to ALL communities, not just the low class.


that's complete bullshit and communities have way to many variables for that statement to be true. 



noname2200 said:
"Middleton said he was reaching into his car for a cigarette when he was confronted by sheriff's deputies responding to a burglary call. A neighbor had called 911 after they saw him reaching into the car,"

How fast are those deputies?! o_O

Neighbour: "Hi, 911? I'm looking into the neighbour's front driveway, and I can see a menacing black man stealing stuff from a car. Come quickly!"

911: "A black man? Thank you. We are diverting the entire force to your area, expect them within seconds!"



Kasz216 said:
fordy said:
Kasz216 said:
fordy said:
Kasz216 said:
fordy said:

Here's a suggestion to Florida residents: Why don't you get to KNOW your neighbours? Much easier than having confrontations...


You must have never lived in a poor/lower class neigherhood.

 

If you know your neighbors,  Your Neighbors know yur schedule... which means your ass is getting robbed while your at work.


What's that? People should NOT talk to their black neighbours on the basis of fear of having their stuff stolen by them?

Thanks for justifying my point.


Where did I say Black?  That's a weird racist assumption right there...

Black, White, Hispanic, in the wrong neighberhood getting to know your neighbors is the eaisest way to get your house robbed by a tweaker.

For example anytime anyone in the area i work at gets thrown in jail, the first thing that happens is their is a huge rush to get to their house between those who'd like to rob him, and anyone loyal enough to protect their stuff.

 

Crime isn't race dependent... it's not really wealth dependent either like you would think.  It's mostly location dependent.   Poor city areas, that's where crime thrives.   Granted Black people do commit an inordinant amount of crimes, but that's because they live in these areas more frequently, it doesn't have anything to do with race.


So why give the assumption that people are guilty until proven innocent? Besides, communities that are more social towards each other tend to have less crimes commited to neighbours BY neighbours. This applies to ALL communities, not just the low class.


Certiantly isn't the case in the communty I work in.   Everybody knows everybody.   Everyone is friends with everybody.  Everybody robs everybody.

I think we need to re-evaluate your definition of "friends".



Demensha said:
fordy said:
Kasz216 said:
fordy said:
Kasz216 said:
fordy said:

Here's a suggestion to Florida residents: Why don't you get to KNOW your neighbours? Much easier than having confrontations...


You must have never lived in a poor/lower class neigherhood.

 

If you know your neighbors,  Your Neighbors know yur schedule... which means your ass is getting robbed while your at work.


What's that? People should NOT talk to their black neighbours on the basis of fear of having their stuff stolen by them?

Thanks for justifying my point.


Where did I say Black?  That's a weird racist assumption right there...

Black, White, Hispanic, in the wrong neighberhood getting to know your neighbors is the eaisest way to get your house robbed by a tweaker.

For example anytime anyone in the area i work at gets thrown in jail, the first thing that happens is their is a huge rush to get to their house between those who'd like to rob him, and anyone loyal enough to protect their stuff.

 

Crime isn't race dependent... it's not really wealth dependent either like you would think.  It's mostly location dependent.   Poor city areas, that's where crime thrives.   Granted Black people do commit an inordinant amount of crimes, but that's because they live in these areas more frequently, it doesn't have anything to do with race.


So why give the assumption that people are guilty until proven innocent? Besides, communities that are more social towards each other tend to have less crimes commited to neighbours BY neighbours. This applies to ALL communities, not just the low class.


that's complete bullshit and communities have way to many variables for that statement to be true. 


So in other words, the moral of the story is: trust nobody. 

Thanks.