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bananaking21 on 25 July 2013
ebw said:
bananaking21 said:

LOL yeah i just found out it has a 4:3 screen the other day, what a joke

Said someone with no understanding of the needs of the average tablet consumer.  Sure, 16:9 is nice for watching movies, but tablets are more than just glorified digital photo frames.  For the many tasks better suited to portrait orientation, 4:3 is preferable.  It's also slightly more "honest" in that it provides more screen real estate for the same diagonal length: the iPad mini's 7.9-inch 4:3 screen has a area of 30 square inches, the equivalent of an 8.4-inch 16:9 display.


LOL sure, did you take that straight out of a apple ad? go tell apple its 2013, every device in the world uses 16:9 inch screen because its better. 



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archer9234 on 25 July 2013

Use that empty space in a iPad to improve the battery. Stop packing the same small crap battery that lasts 4 hours.



famousringo on 25 July 2013
bananaking21 said:
ebw said:
bananaking21 said:

LOL yeah i just found out it has a 4:3 screen the other day, what a joke

Said someone with no understanding of the needs of the average tablet consumer.  Sure, 16:9 is nice for watching movies, but tablets are more than just glorified digital photo frames.  For the many tasks better suited to portrait orientation, 4:3 is preferable.  It's also slightly more "honest" in that it provides more screen real estate for the same diagonal length: the iPad mini's 7.9-inch 4:3 screen has a area of 30 square inches, the equivalent of an 8.4-inch 16:9 display.


LOL sure, did you take that straight out of a apple ad? go tell apple its 2013, every device in the world uses 16:9 inch screen because its better. 

Somebody should tell Google, Samsung and Amazon. Most of their tablets are 16:10. But I guess now we know why the 16:9 Surface is flying off the shelves so fast.

PCs started using 16:9 because it's cheaper to use the same panels used in TVs, not because it's objectively better for all PC tasks.



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famousringo on 25 July 2013
archer9234 said:
Use that empty space in a iPad to improve the battery. Stop packing the same small crap battery that lasts 4 hours.


If you're only getting 4 hours out of your iPad, you should return it for another one. It's defective.

And there isn't any empty space in the current iPads that isn't filled with battery. 3rd gen iPad was 7% bigger than the iPad 2, but packed in 70% more battery.



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outlawauron on 25 July 2013
famousringo said:
outlawauron said:
I think it's funny how Apple just seems to be so willing to let other companies use common sense to steal all of their customers while they get regulated to a small minority. Happened with PCs, happened with smartphones, and now it's happening with tablets.

Apple is still gaining customers in phones, and still gaining them in PCs. Your assertion is patently false. In fact, the iPad has made Apple the largest PC manufacturer in the world by units, nevermind profit:

http://canalys.com/newsroom/one-six-pcs-shipped-q4-2012-was-ipad

80% of this quarter's drop in iPad sales is due to reduced channel inventory. In other words, sellthrough is nearly the same as the iPad 3's launch quarter, but Apple isn't restocking the shelves in preparation for the next fleet of iPads.

lol. iPad are tablets, not PCs. They're also losing ground to their competitors.

Apple lost its dominant hold on the market as Andriod is now the market leader for smartphones. Apple sits around 20-25% marketshare in PCs, they were once market leaders here too.



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Zappykins on 25 July 2013
famousringo said:

There are important differences depending on who you are. For example, developers need to deal with a different app store if they want to target Kindle users, with different requirements, services, and terms and conditions. If you're Google, your default search status is gone and all your apps and services have been stripped out.

Even the end user, who might supposedly use the same apps and services whether it's a Kindle or a Nexus, will find that the default apps and services guide their usage patterns. Most people tend to go with the default, unless they have a very compelling reason to change.

It's been estimated that a third of Android devices have no Google services at all, leading analysts to joke that Android is not a platform itself, but rather a platform for platforms.

Thanks for that, I had forgot, and didn't realize so much that Amazon strips out of the regular Android. 

I assume behind the scenes Microsoft would so love to make the OS for Kindel and there have been some serious negotiation.  This is just pure speculation on my part, but I assumed before they make the Surface, they pushed hard (or should have) on Amazon.  There is a probably, more than healthy, level of competition between their web businesses.



 

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superchunk on 25 July 2013
Zappykins said:
Anyone know why they separate Kindle Fire and Android? The Kindle Fire runs Android, although a heavily modified version, but it's still an Android.


Probably because it doesn't use Google Play as a webstore and is basically its own platform.



famousringo on 25 July 2013
outlawauron said:
famousringo said:
outlawauron said:
I think it's funny how Apple just seems to be so willing to let other companies use common sense to steal all of their customers while they get regulated to a small minority. Happened with PCs, happened with smartphones, and now it's happening with tablets.

Apple is still gaining customers in phones, and still gaining them in PCs. Your assertion is patently false. In fact, the iPad has made Apple the largest PC manufacturer in the world by units, nevermind profit:

http://canalys.com/newsroom/one-six-pcs-shipped-q4-2012-was-ipad

80% of this quarter's drop in iPad sales is due to reduced channel inventory. In other words, sellthrough is nearly the same as the iPad 3's launch quarter, but Apple isn't restocking the shelves in preparation for the next fleet of iPads.

lol. iPad are tablets, not PCs. They're also losing ground to their competitors.

Apple lost its dominant hold on the market as Andriod is now the market leader for smartphones. Apple sits around 20-25% marketshare in PCs, they were once market leaders here too.

Microsoft will tell you that tablets are PCs. You think they don't know what they're talking about? That they'd gamble with Windows on a whim? Tablets are PCs in that they are literally Personal Computers and in that they are displacing conventional PCs for the same use cases, plus a few more. Please tell me how many quarters of contraction the conventional PC market needs to endure before you'll accept that tablets are PCs.

Apple never had a dominant hold on the phone market or the PC market. Apple's pre-iPad best showing in PC marketshare came in 1984, when the Apple II and Mac earned a combined 21% slice of the market:

http://jeremyreimer.com/m-item.lsp?i=137

They did lose customers in PCs, but now they've gained them back with the iPad and I doubt that momentum is spent.

As for the phone market, Apple has 9% and is still growing. No lost customers here:

http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2482816



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famousringo on 25 July 2013
Zappykins said:
famousringo said:
 

There are important differences depending on who you are. For example, developers need to deal with a different app store if they want to target Kindle users, with different requirements, services, and terms and conditions. If you're Google, your default search status is gone and all your apps and services have been stripped out.

Even the end user, who might supposedly use the same apps and services whether it's a Kindle or a Nexus, will find that the default apps and services guide their usage patterns. Most people tend to go with the default, unless they have a very compelling reason to change.

It's been estimated that a third of Android devices have no Google services at all, leading analysts to joke that Android is not a platform itself, but rather a platform for platforms.

Thanks for that, I had forgot, and didn't realize so much that Amazon strips out of the regular Android. 

I assume behind the scenes Microsoft would so love to make the OS for Kindel and there have been some serious negotiation.  This is just pure speculation on my part, but I assumed before they make the Surface, they pushed hard (or should have) on Amazon.  There is a probably, more than healthy, level of competition between their web businesses.

Bing is the default search engine on Kindle. I don't think the partnership will go much further. Amazon's strategy is to sell the hardware as cheaply as possible and make it back with content sales and advertising/analytics. Licensing Windows (and upgrading their hardware to run it, Windows seems to require more storage and RAM) is an expense they don't seem to need, especially since Amazon's app store seems to be one of the more lucrative ones out there. I've seen more than one dev claim to earn more from Amazon than from Google.



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wick on 25 July 2013

Maybe people are waking up to the fact there are much cheaper options that can do a whole lot more than the latest iTrash.



 

 

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