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Forums - Gaming - Square Enix still "wouldn't say no" to a Western-developed Final Fantasy spin-off

For the right project, the prospect is still on the table - even after the failure of Fortress.

Ever since evidence leaked of a cancelled Western-developed Final Fantasy XII spin-off, online conversation about a potential Western take on the series has been intense. The talk is even referenced in recent Square Enix release Deus Ex: The Fall, where an optional email viewable on a computer declares the latest FF deserves to be Game of the Year 2027 - "Giving it back to a Japanese developer was the right move," the email winks. 

When RPG Site got a chance to interview Final Fantasy Brand Director & Producer Shinji Hashimoto earlier this month we asked him his opinion on a potential East-meets-West development - and he's still clear that he - and the company - haven't ruled it out entirely. 

"I wouldn't say no straight away!" he told us with a chuckle. 

"It depends on the proposal and everything, though, of course," he elaborated. "Obviously Final Fantasy is traditionally a Japanese game, so it would really just depend on how discussion goes. But, yes - if any Western studio actually approached us, we'd of course think about it."

While Hashimoto wouldn't talk about the Final Fantasy XII project, codenamed Fortress, it is clear that Square Enix hasn't been entirely turned off the idea of a Western-made Final Fantasy by their experiences with that ill-fated title.

'Fortress' was in development in 2008 at now-defunct Swedish studio GRIN and was envisioned as a PS3, PC and Xbox 360-based sequel to FF12 featuring a Queen Ashe and an ever-expanding Fortress to battle through. It was Final Fantasy but with a Nordic, Elder Scrolls-like flavour. 

At some point Square Enix lost confidence in the project and pulled it from GRIN, who were on the verge of bankruptcy after several flops.

The project was then allegedly shopped to other studios before being cancelled entirely. In 2011 Final Fantasy XIII series director Motomu Toriyamatold Videogamer.com that the title was "Suspended," and "won't be released." 

"We can't really see it happening," Yoshinori Kitase told the site about a Western-developed FF at the time. 

Series Brand Director and Producer Hashimoto is evidently more optimistic and perhaps more open-minded about the possibility, even after the failure of Fortress. He's also been involved with East-West collaborations before with the largely unsuccessful Front Mission Evolved. 

"I don't know why, but one of the things about Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts is that they're very unique - it's a very unique proposition that we have," Hashimoto told us, reasoning why such a spin-off would be difficult to get right. 

"I think that's why it's quite difficult for people to approach us with such ideas."

http://www.rpgsite.net/news/2518-square-enix-still-wouldnt-say-no-to-a-westerndeveloped-final-fantasy-spinoff



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They already said no to a western developed final fantasy before... so i wouldnt exactly buy that story.



BasilZero said:
I wouldnt mind a western developed FF game as long as it isnt a generic storyline with fetch quests.


Then you dont want a western FF. It's a bad move. I cant shake the feeling Japanese developers dont that being Japanese is big part of the appeal of Japanese games. If I wanted to play a WRPG then I would go play a WRPG.



Xxain said:
BasilZero said:
I wouldnt mind a western developed FF game as long as it isnt a generic storyline with fetch quests.


Then you dont want a western FF.


Of course he wants.

 

 

^ That's a western Secret of Mana. If things are done properly, you can get awesome results.



I wouldn't mind as long as it was a good WRPG developer and a spin off title. I can't imagine a mainline FF outside of its JRPG roots.



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Wright said:
Xxain said:
BasilZero said:
I wouldnt mind a western developed FF game as long as it isnt a generic storyline with fetch quests.


Then you dont want a western FF.


Of course he wants.

 

 

^ That's a western Secret of Mana. If things are done properly, you can get awesome results.


SoE doesn't count considering its based off a Japanese game. Hell, any western game from that age doesnt count because regardless of what region you were from you were using the foundation of game design set by Japan. We have seen countless times this generation the end of result of western developed Japanese games. They end up being nothing like the source material and more like whatever outside source's inspired the developer. Maverick Hunter X looked more like Prime rip off then a Megaman game. Castlevania: LoS felt more like a Lord of Rings. DmC was heavily inspired by the the guys favorite movie and band and barely looks anything like a DmC, Pretty much they end up being in name only.



Haven't they damaged ff enough?



BasilZero said:
Xxain said:


SoE doesn't count considering its based off a Japanese game. Hell, any western game from that age doesnt count because regardless of what region you were from you were using the foundation of game design set by Japan. We have seen countless times this generation the end of result of western developed Japanese games. They end up being nothing like the source material and more like whatever outside source's inspired the developer. Maverick Hunter X looked more like Prime rip off then a Megaman game. Castlevania: LoS felt more like a Lord of Rings. DmC was heavily inspired by the the guys favorite movie and band and barely looks anything like a DmC, Pretty much they end up being in name only.


Did you just say Maverick Hunter X is a rip off of Metroid Prime. If so, Ok I know now who's opinions not to listen to then ;x.


The western one.. not the PSP.



BasilZero said:
Xxain said:


The western one.. not the PSP.


The western one doesnt exist and even if it did you dont know how it would of turned out like.


What do you mean? Didn't you watch the trailer? It was totally inspired by Prime. It did help the developers behind were ex Retro staff.



After the whole "13" scandal of...just being a lackluster FF release (by comparison), being a open world WRPG with FF story and characters would surely shake things up a bit.



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