I don't understand the point you're making? My attitude isn't cynical, I even said multiple times I'll likely buy a PSV end of life, even if for only a handful of exclusives.

So why insult me? Do you insult everyone who has a different opinion then you? I accept that you love the Vita for the reasons that you do (playing PS3 games, and PS1/PSP digital titles). Can't you accept that a more traditional gamer such as myself is underwhelmed by the Vita?

PSV has very few good games IMO, that's why I'm underwhelmed. Please don't be rude.

Nice twist, but the thruth is that the problem is not exactly in the situation of offering the same experiences you have on a home console on a portable, the problem is when those experiences surpass the number of exclusive games a system has. I mean, so far, sales are telling the whole picture.

I read your attitude as cycnical from the tone and content of your posts.

I'm not really insulting you either. You're taking what I'm saying personally rather than just reading it. Someone puts a list of games they like and instead of saying I'm not interested in those, you decide they suck or are just average without playing them (thus the irony on calling another ignorant).

And as ironic as your post is, I've yet to play a single PS3 port, enhanced or otherwise. And you also assume that I adore the Vita which really isn't true. I do like the handheld a lot and have enjoyed several games, but to say I'm completely satisified with it would be a lie. 3DS is in the same place, but that may change now that I'm finally getting to play some of the newer releases.

Wow this thread has become a dick measuring contest between the 3DS and the Vita.

Well, yes. In turn, it has become quite pathetic at times.

Watch the review by Gametrailers. Resident Evil Revelations was designed to be played on a small screen. On a large screen, you see imperfections, and a lack of attention to detail. Facial animations are rigid on a large screen, but on a small screen they are not. Also, on consoles, you loose the benefit of the second screen. The Wii U version is suppose to resolve this, but the lack of detail, and upscaling in the environment are obvious in the console version.

A lot of games are designed differently when made for handhelds then consoles, simple.

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Nope, not a single HD remake on Vita has me interested. Tales of the Abyss is an exception because it's one of the few PS2 games which I don't own, and haven't beaten.

I'm not cheap, I just prefer owning retail copies of games. Currently I'm picking up expensive PS1/PS2, and Sega CD games, despite them being available on PSN for much less. It's kind of like a picture, if it's a picture I really like, I will print it and keep it in a physical photo alumn.

You are right in one way though. I admit, I don't pay attention to upcoming PSV games, and I often forget that it still has a chance for some. Tearaway, I know about, but it's not the type of game I like, so I pass it off. As for Ragnarok Odyssey, that game has a lot of bad reviews, I think the sequel should be below the cutoff unless it proves otherwise, that's why I don't count it

Freedom Wars could go either way.

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Also Ports, plural, aren't a good investement for me on the 3DS. It's a single game, I specifically am interested in. I have no plans to buy Ocarina of Time, or any other port. Hence this is why I didn't use it as an arguement, but in a standalone comment referencing why I personally am interested in the 3DS.

Stop trying to attack me at any given moment, If I didn't own a 3DS I can always play the game on PS2, that's why I would never count it in a list of reasons to buy a 3DS over a Vita.

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As for Persona, that's a reason for someone like you to buy the Vita. Admittingly, that's a reason why many people will buy a Vita. It's not like I didn't appreciate FF Tactics or Lunar for the PSP. In fact, Lunar releasing for the PSP got me into the franchise, and I recently bought Lunar 2 for Sega CD.

However for people who are in general not interested in ports/remakes, I think PSV is a waste. I don't think most Persona 4 players will go out and buy a Vita for the enhanced experience, not unless they are really really big fans, and in that case Vita has something for them.

Anyway I did mention, PSV is a good console, just not a good system. Being able to play PS1 games is amazing, but that's a feature of PSN and not exclusive to PSV. You don't specifically need a Vita to take advantage of this, but regardless, Vita has it, and it's a good console. Just as a unique system, it doesn't offer much IMO.

This is akin to many peoples perspectives of the X-Box 360. In reality, it's a damn great console, it can play 90% of the games available on PS3, and then some exclusives. However as a system, it's only good because while there are some great exclusives, I would only advise people to purchase the console if those exclusives are enough to warrenty the buy.

So if I don't own a Vita, at this moment in time, I'm really not missing out on much.

-Yes, I can't play PS3 games portably, but my PSP, DS, and soon 3DS more then suffice for games I can play portably. It's not like I ran out of handheld games and desperatly need something, or one specific game just sucks on the PS3, but is beautiful on the Vita.

-Yes I can play PS1 classics, but technically I could mod my PSP to do that too, and since I own most of the games I want to play on PS1, this isn't illegal here in Canada.

So what am I missing out on? Uncharted and Killzone? Okay, well like I said I'll get a Vita end of life, just to pick up these gems. Why spend $250 now and play these games now, when I can spend less later, and play other handhelds, better rated handhelds, now?

Don't hate me for having a different opinion. You're free to dislike the 3DS. The only time I defended the 3DS here was when someone said it's "just Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda" and then I pointed out a good dozen highly rated games which aren't Mario, Pokemon, or Zelda. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and my opinion isn't factually incorrect, so why argue with me?

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P.S. Thanks for pointing out Freedom Wars, Ys, and Tearaway.  In the case of the last 2, I did omit them because I forgot about them, since they aren't my type of games. Had they been "my type of game" and I ommited them, then my negative opinion on Vita would have been invalid, and you would have raised a good point.

P.P.S. Man....I wrote too much hear, I need to condense. If MUGEN were here, he would be at my throat, PSV, long responses, and I disagree with him. If you quote me again, I'll keep it short, sorry.

If my tone is at all negative, or cynical, it's because people keep telling me that my opinion is wrong, and invalid, despite being grounded and based on real facts.

You're not insulting me, I just felt that last comment was a bit rude, I did take it personally, sorry.

I said most of those games are average because of their metascore. Most of the games mentioned, which you are refering to, had scores in the 70's, some as low as 71. Even Uncharted only got an 80, where the PS3 versions typically score 90+.

How do you know that I haven't played a single PSV port/enhanced remake? I belive I stated before that I have played PSV in store demos.

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Also, I don't believe that you're using the term irony correctly, that's why I feel insulted. What's ironic? What am I doing, and critisizing others for?

What's funny is that I largely consider Uncharted Vita as the best reason to own a Vita.....

So why doesn't Fire Emblem or Mario Kart count as a reason to own a 3DS? It's not like the 3DS version is a port/remake of a prior game (except for OoT)

Especially something like Fire Emblem, which is largely a handheld francise, which only saw 2 of it's last 8 games release on consoles?

Too much......

Damn it. I had this big block of text typed up and I accidentally refreshed and it got wiped away. Here's my cliffs notes ()

1. There's disconnect because you place value in reviews and metacritics scores while I ignore them. A lot of favorite games have scored poorly on metacritic for one reason or another and there's been plenty of terrible GOTY contenders that get 90s.

2. I don't consider playing a demo of something a qualifier to give a final say on the quality of the game. I have no idea on how much time you spent with each game (that would creeeeeepy), but I'm just going off the information you supplied. There are exceptions where a game is so broken or messed up beyond all hope, but these are not these extreme cases. If I didn't enjoy a demo, I wouldn't call it a bad game, but that I didn't enjoy it and I'm not interested in buying the full game. I'm not qualified to review it with the short amount of time I spent with it.

3. Ironic only because I would consider someone stating the quality of a product or service they haven't experienced by using another's opinion as the reason for the view as ignorant.