Riiiight... Just because same-sex marriage isn't allowed, doesn't mean that all the gays and lesbians will suddenly turn straight and start making babies.
Unfortunatly it just simply does not work like that, gays and lesbians have and will always exist regardless of what some book says and not just in the human populace either.

Besides, who *really* has the right to tell someone who they can and can't have sex with? We are all consenting adults (I hope anyway!), it should be our own decision, not the governments or religion or some random dude staring at you from a corner, those who think otherwise... Might aswell move to a country that doesn't have any freedoms.

Well, blood letting is a long practiced tradition too.

I am still bewildered why the conservatives aren't the leaders in the same sex marraige movement - well they are in some places, but haven't been in the USA.

Did I actually just read that?

Wow.

Yes. Same sex marriage is allowed only in certain states.

"Marriage is a sacred institution which predates all our modern governments, therefore governments don't have authority over it."  Ignoring the fact that marriage was crated by governments before Churches incorporated it, If we go by that thinking then so are cars - so the government has no authority over helicopters (1500's Leonardo da Vinci), ships and boats, doctors, herbalist, etc.

Well, the good news it stops all of their attempts to limit abort rights.

Well, ask him about interracial marriages - also forbidden - and see how he explains that one.  For him not to see it as a civil rights issue shows there is something missing somewhere in his thinking.  I guess his bias is showing.

It's not just extremists. The average traditional Christian doesn't like same-sex marriage.

Well, I'm not sure if the Christians took "Marriage" from the pagans or not, but Marriage as in the idea of it (I.E. Forever together.) does date back to the old world, long before Christianity, where two tribes would contractually marry two people to ally both tribes.

This was before the Dark Ages, The Crusades, The Roman empire and the rise of Christianity, possibly before religions ever even existed.

Here in the Philippines, the Catholic Bishops of the Philippines has strong political clout over our Government, Justice system and less fortunate people. That we can't even pass a Health bill because it promotes contraceptives and condoms and has a section that allows abortion, if the mother's life is in danger and the child inside her cannot be saved.

To the Religious zealots, its just abortion plain in simple with disregards to the mothers' life and they do not care if we are over populated and a child grows in poverty, as long as contraceptives and condoms is not used because they prevent life.

Pro-Life here = you just need to be given birth to, without a care to your standard of living.

We also have a study that the Philippines is the number 1 country with teen prenancies and illegal abortion in South East Asia because there is no proper sex education and also we have a high death rate of mothers while giving birth because a lot of our hospitals have no proper equipment to deal with complications that may occur during child labor and the funding is in the same bill.

Which is indefinitely stuck in the Supreme Court as they study if its legal under the constitution after 14 or so years of waiting in the Senate and Congress.

And if we cannot get this bill passed then there is no hope in passing Human Rights for LGBTs and the Divorce Law. So if you think its bad in America, you have not seen the Philippines yet and what the Church is doing to this country.

Correct. Also, in those days homosexuals were in less of a position. Homosexuals have more position today even in the time of the Greeks and Romans. That is true progression and no one should stand in the way of their need to get married to their love.