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TiagoCosta on 30 March 2015
crissindahouse said:
TiagoCosta said:

That won't happen, ps4 will be so ahead that it won't even cross devs minds. I don't really care for small jp games, I just want the big ones (>750k sellers), these can still be saved going by last gen story.  

If devs won't develop big japanese games for XBO even if it is so similar to PS4 and PC and even if it will have sold tens of millions of consoles it's the devs stupidity and not MS's. Yes, maybe PS4 will be at 80m and XBO at 40m or something, that still means 1/3 of the market of these two consoles is XB and that porting is super easy nowadays. 

To tell MS that they should pay for something they should get automatically (some bigger japanese games they might not get)  is just crazy from a financial standpoint. What do you expect? That if MS does this, that the fans of Japanese games who will buy a PS4 would buy an XBO instead? Not sure what you think how many would do this? PS would always get more Japanese games as long as MS wouldn't pay for every single one and with that it also means that most fans of these games will always prefer PS even if MS would pay for many Japanese games. 

MS could only change that if they would buy some of the Japanese studios who work on PS games so that they would be XB only...

Like 360 yes, it happened. 

A true gamer plays the best of both worlds (jp and western games), Halo/Gears and Persona/tales/LO... in last gen there was only one place for that when Peter Moore was around. Then he gone to EA, 360 started to receive less support (0 exclusive one), and going into this gen hearing about ms plans for jp games they are going for ps4.

But don't worry, I already lost all my hope. Nowadays I'm just saying.



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Spade on 30 March 2015

I just want to say, as someone who is relatively active in this thread and doesn't get involved in this conflict, I myself, find it annoying. Now imagine how others feel?

The main issue is repeating the same thing ad nauseam.



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crissindahouse on 30 March 2015
TiagoCosta said:

Like 360 yes, it happened. 

A true gamer plays the best of both worlds (jp and western games), Halo/Gears and Persona/tales/LO... in last gen there was only one place for that when Peter Moore was around. Then he gone to EA, 360 started to receive less support (0 exclusive one), and going into this gen hearing about ms plans for jp games they are going for ps4.

But don't worry, I already lost all my hope. Nowadays I'm just saying.

Yes it happened, maybe 3m people bought a 360 because of japanese games Xbox got because MS paid for them hey! That is really something you should look out for if you sell almost 100m over the whole gen, to pay for x amout of Japanese games to sell a few million consoles more.

I mean, or do you want to tell us that 360 would have sold only 50m without these Japanese games? 

And I don't worry, I know that you lost your hope, it's not as if you didn't let us know the last 100 days pretty much every single day^^ And if someone tells you to buy a PS4 then you say that you don't care about what PS4 is getting. That is the great part about this, you find it so horrible that XB doesn't get what PS gets but then you say you don't care about what PS gets (except for Persona, one single game awesome). Ok, maybe also Street Fighter but that is something totally different, Sony and MS simply pay for exclusives and SF is one paid game for Sony. 

Don't get me wrong, I would be happy to see every single game on XB but if MS would pay for some of of the Japanese games it would be probably a negative investment. They would have to pay more as they would get out of it which means they would have  less money for other XBox stuff then. It's not as if investing in these Japanese games would be independent of other investments for Xbox. It's not as if MS would simply use more money, they are after all still a company which has to look at their investments and profitability. 



TiagoCosta on 30 March 2015
JayWood2010 said:
TiagoCosta said:

I just said the obvious and was told to stop when I didn't even start.


No it really isnt, and people are telling you to stop because theyre getting frustrated with you

PS: every Persona (JRPG) has been exclusive as far as im aware.

Persona 1
Persona 2
Persona 3
Persona 4
Persona Q
Persona 5

Team persona (the studio)

Worked on Catherine last gen which was 360/ps3

This gen is doing a multi ps3/ps4 (P5)



TiagoCosta on 30 March 2015
DexInDaJungle said:

That may very well be true but the same could be said for a lot of games. They aren't gonna get every single game we want on Xbox One, that's just unrealistic. I wanna play Bloodborne and we all know it's a system seller but MS couldn't get it. We don't know why, maybe they were asking for too much, maybe Sony overpaid or maybe From Software didn't wanna work with anyone else. We don't know. The same could be said for other Japanese devs, it's not really fair to blame Phil here. Just my opinion and I know you disagree, and that's 100% okay.

Bloodborne as bad as it is, is a different case all together, while being a third party game is also founded by sony and is a first party IP.. like scalebound. 

You can't really compare with the atlus game.

crissindahouse said:

Yes it happened, maybe 3m people bought a 360 because of japanese games hey! That is really something you should look out for if you sell almost 100m over the whole gen, to pay for x amout of Japanese games to sell a few million consoles more.

I mean, or do you want to tell us that 360 would have sold only 50m without these Japanese games? 

And I don't worry, I know that you lost your hope, it's not as if you didn't let us know the last 100 days pretty much every single day^^ And if someone tells you to buy a PS4 then you say that you don't care about what PS4 is getting. That is the great part about this, you find it so horrible that XB doesn't get what PS gets but then you say you don't care about what PS gets (except for Persona, one single game awesome). Ok, maybe also Street Fighter but that is something totally different, Sony and MS simply pay for exclusives and SF is one paid game for Sony. 

As you can imagine, Anitwitter(where I belong) is pretty heavy on jrpgs, so are some places online.. just look at VGC. 

Word of mouth in many cases comes from online, the domino effect that those 3 million guys can produce is way greater than their number themselves. 

I lost hope in the industry, not only in having p5 on xbox. 



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Jaywood2010 on 30 March 2015
TiagoCosta said:
JayWood2010 said:

 

Team persona (the studio)

Worked on Catherine last gen which was 360/ps3

This gen is doing a multi ps3/ps4 (P5)


Catherine isnt Persona.  They may have had more faith in Catherine doing well on XB than Persona.  I dont know the exact reason but its their choice.  Most people found it odd that they excluded PSV with Persona Q when Persona has never been on a Nintendo console, but that was their decision.

PS3/PS4 is still considered platform exclusive, and we dont know the reason they did that either.  Maybe sony approached them, maybe they saw the success of PS4, idk.  We dont know the answers to this stuff, but its not Microsofts, Nintendo's, or even Sony's choice to tell Atlus what to do.  Its their own choice, and maybe SEGA if they want to interfere




       

Azerth on 30 March 2015

so it seems like the halo 5 release date is a ww one



DexInDaJungle on 30 March 2015
Azerth said:
so it seems like the halo 5 release date is a ww one


To MS WW means America and the UK XD



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TiagoCosta on 30 March 2015
DexInDaJungle said:
Azerth said:
so it seems like the halo 5 release date is a ww one


To MS WW means America and the UK XD

UK date is the Europe one, I won't say PAL because nintendo likes to use different dates with Australia. 



Azerth on 30 March 2015
DexInDaJungle said:
Azerth said:
so it seems like the halo 5 release date is a ww one


To MS WW means America and the UK XD

lol true but atleast this time it means germany as well