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Mr Khan said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
 

Answer the question.

the answer is no Because nintendo clearly doesn't care about graphics, just look at there hardware for the past 2 gens, i don't think wiiu games will ever surpass the best of ps3 or 360 for that reason.

One day you are going to choke on all the crow you're going to have to eat. Probably by the end of 2014.

we have already seen all the games coming out 2014, and they  look like average to nice current gen games,, the trailer of GTA5 is  more techically impresiive by a large margin then the anything we have seen in X, models, animation, and textures all look much better, not mention it actually has dynamic lighting, then you basically have a confirmation in the beyond3d  wiiu hardware thread that the gpu is indeed 160 shaders, i dont see how i will eating crow when i have been right on everything so far.



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ninjablade said:
Mr Khan said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
 

Answer the question.

the answer is no Because nintendo clearly doesn't care about graphics, just look at there hardware for the past 2 gens, i don't think wiiu games will ever surpass the best of ps3 or 360 for that reason.

One day you are going to choke on all the crow you're going to have to eat. Probably by the end of 2014.

we have already seen all the games coming out 2014, and they  look like average to nice current gen games,, the trailer of GTA5 is  more techically impresiive by a large margin then the anything we have seen in X, models, animation, and textures all look much better, not mention it actually has dynamic lighting, then you basically have a confirmation in the beyond3d  wiiu hardware thread that the gpu is indeed 160 shaders, i dont see how i will eating crow when i have been right on everything so far.



curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
Mr Khan said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
 

Answer the question.

the answer is no Because nintendo clearly doesn't care about graphics, just look at there hardware for the past 2 gens, i don't think wiiu games will ever surpass the best of ps3 or 360 for that reason.

One day you are going to choke on all the crow you're going to have to eat. Probably by the end of 2014.

we have already seen all the games coming out 2014, and they  look like average to nice current gen games,, the trailer of GTA5 is  more techically impresiive by a large margin then the anything we have seen in X, models, animation, and textures all look much better, not mention it actually has dynamic lighting, then you basically have a confirmation in the beyond3d  wiiu hardware thread that the gpu is indeed 160 shaders, i dont see how i will eating crow when i have been right on everything so far.


well i meant big games with a nice budget, 3d mario, mario kart and X, are all due in 2014, third party support will be very rare by then.



ninjablade said:

well i meant big games with a nice budget, 3d mario, mario kart and X, are all due in 2014, third party support will be very rare by then.

Nintendo announce big games with like 6-9 months to go to release all the time, they could very easily anounce several 2014 games they haven't yet.



curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:

well i meant big games with a nice budget, 3d mario, mario kart and X, are all due in 2014, third party support will be very rare by then.

Nintendo announce big games with like 6-9 months to go to release all the time, they could very easily anounce several 2014 games they haven't yet.


this is false, there might be a rare exception, but nintendo anounces games and they usually come out a year and a half later.



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ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:

well i meant big games with a nice budget, 3d mario, mario kart and X, are all due in 2014, third party support will be very rare by then.

Nintendo announce big games with like 6-9 months to go to release all the time, they could very easily anounce several 2014 games they haven't yet.


this is false, there might be a rare exception, but nintendo anounces games and they usually come out a year and a half later.

Happens all the time; Donkey Kong Country Returns, Tropical Freeze, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Kirby's Return to Dreamland, New Super Mario Bro Wii...



curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:

well i meant big games with a nice budget, 3d mario, mario kart and X, are all due in 2014, third party support will be very rare by then.

Nintendo announce big games with like 6-9 months to go to release all the time, they could very easily anounce several 2014 games they haven't yet.


this is false, there might be a rare exception, but nintendo anounces games and they usually come out a year and a half later.

Happens all the time; Donkey Kong Country Returns, Tropical Freeze, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Kirby's Return to Dreamland, New Super Mario Bro Wii...

those are not exactly big games, they are 2d games, very easy to make, compared to a 3d zelda, mario galaxy, i'm talking about game that push the hardware, like mario galaxy, zelda, those games will always be anounced at E3 and come out next year's holiday. i'm talking about big budhet games.



ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:


this is false, there might be a rare exception, but nintendo anounces games and they usually come out a year and a half later.

Happens all the time; Donkey Kong Country Returns, Tropical Freeze, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Kirby's Return to Dreamland, New Super Mario Bro Wii...

those are not exactly big games, they are 2d games, very easy to make, compared to a 3d zelda, mario galaxy, i'm talking about game that push the hardware, like mario galaxy, zelda, those games will always be anounced at E3 and come out next year's holiday.

You're still making the mistake of assuming 2D games are automatically simple an easy to do. They're not. Donkey Kong Country Returns was a system pusher, and was in development for 2 years before being announced just 5 months before release.



curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:


this is false, there might be a rare exception, but nintendo anounces games and they usually come out a year and a half later.

Happens all the time; Donkey Kong Country Returns, Tropical Freeze, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Kirby's Return to Dreamland, New Super Mario Bro Wii...

those are not exactly big games, they are 2d games, very easy to make, compared to a 3d zelda, mario galaxy, i'm talking about game that push the hardware, like mario galaxy, zelda, those games will always be anounced at E3 and come out next year's holiday.

You're still making the mistake of assuming 2D games are automatically simple an easy to do. They're not. Donkey Kong Country Returns was a system pusher, and was in development for 2 years before being announced just 5 months before release.

compared to a 3d games, yes they are and thats a fact. you can make a great 2d games with a very small budget, and it would still look great.



ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:

You're still making the mistake of assuming 2D games are automatically simple an easy to do. They're not. Donkey Kong Country Returns was a system pusher, and was in development for 2 years before being announced just 5 months before release.

compared to a 3d games, yes they are and thats a fact.

No, it's not a fact. It's an inaccurate generalisation.