o.O why do you hope is not true? curious for the answer

how would it be pointless?  alot of people most sony fans point and laugh at xb1 for taking 3 gb of the ram for os and daily saying we got 7 you got 5 4>1  well 7>5 as well.  that just means it will give sony fans one less thing to belittle xbox fans on.  on top of that it it could give a whole 4 gb to the OS and still have a full 8gb strictly for gaming purposes.  so thats a little pass being pointless

did you read the engdaget parts which is the only verified part here.... apparently they've been toying with various hardware design.... so I bet what they asked to devs (if they did) were all question they have tested already....

and looking at the small production knowledge I have with more technical hardware (use to work for a company doing scientific equipment that needed calibration and was working with a smaller manufacturer than MS has more than likely) those Chinese manufacturer can output a shit load of stuff a day.... they could be close to 1 million units produce by launch if they start soon if not more.... after all they started in august for XB360 and released in November

so production is not the issue here.... and apparently R&D neither....

not saying this is true.... but one thing for sure it's feasible especially since it's just ram we are talking about.... those are soldered by automated production unit.... takes less than 10 second to do....

the real question is do they have the motherboard ready to do it and/or the ram available for production... the bottleneck if one exist and this rumor is true will be on the component manufacturer side....

No it isn't feasible. The ram on the XBox One and PS4 are ptp connections. If you examined the pcb of the XBox One, you'd see that the board lengths of the address and data bus traces are pretty much identical (ddr3 cannot learn to sync, gddr5 can). You are running the bus at >1GHz so there is very little room for detours for any trace. Solder in another group of rams, somewhere and immediately you see the problem, the trace lengths no longer align (apart from the fact you have a 256 bit bus, so you need some pretty fancy idea for 4GByte more). Let's not forget that the memory interface is now loaded with two chips. If you didn't design the controller for multiple ram chips right from the start, your APU is just gonna blow sooner or later.

It is interesting that this nonsense rumour already lasted for 20+ page. This rubbish probably comes from the same "source" that decreed "2 APUs 12G Ram 5TFlops gpu" some months ago. That turned out right, didn't it?

That's the least I can expect from a $500 console without GDDR5.

granted the PCB we saw was the final and/or only design they have.... once again the real bottle neck is not on MS side capability of production.... it's whether or not they can access to the component they need in time....

but I doubt this will happen anyway.... but people saying it's too late to produce and not feasible are all wrong it's just a matter of sourcing capabilities really

How about you use your knowledge to educate those yapping on about a change like this causing RROD because you know as well as I do that had very little to do with design changes on the 360.  It also had nothing to do with the cooling either...

That probably varies with each console.  It all depends on how many launch units they are projecting, who their production partner is, how long it takes to secure a contract to acquire all the necessary components, how easy/difficult it is to assemble the console, etc.

once again from the endgaget article we can tell they have already tested several designs.... so if they really asked those question I'm sure they kept them in the realm of what they have already tested in R&D.... where do you think the apparent news of cooler than expected comes from.... they have different rigs being tested right now....

so I say it again it's feasible if they can source what they need in time.... but I doubt that.... it's not like manufacturer only work for MS... but then again a guaranteed billion dollar contract could convince a lot of people to rush production for MS

Let him reply to everything. The guy loves to hear himself talk.

Thats what I'm thinking also. So no one in here knows for sure. & if that's the case the "they would have to delay the console" posters really need to stop. They know absolutely nothing about the time.