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zorg1000 on 06 July 2013
oniyide said:
Zero999 said:
pezus said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Nintendo can surely afford a price cut in the west at the moment with the falling yen. The question is, would they want to? Losing $50 potential income per unit or more is significant cash to throw away. The key would be how many more units they would sell. If at the current price they would sell 5 million more Wii U's through the end of the year and price drop would bump it to 6, I doubt they would do it. But if the difference was 3 million and 7 million, surely they would.

I think we'll be able to tell if they are going to do it once Pikmin 3 launches. If that, and the following software, bumps sales of Wii U's to more respectable levels, they may stay the course. If sales stay awful, a price cut is coming.

Pikmin 3 won't boost sales much and even if it does boost by a few dozen k's, then it will be only for 2 weeks or so. I feel like another Donkey Kong Country and a Mario 3D Land type Mario won't help the WiiU enough for Nintendo to not need a price cut. That is, if they care about beating the competition at all. Because you can forget that if there's no price cut this year. 

if lego city boosted sales to almost 80k, certainly pikmin 3 will give it a higher boost.. if you think it will only be a few dozen k's you are delusional. and even if that was for 2 weeks (i don't think it will), there's splinter cell and the european version of W101 coming 2 weeks later, than rayman 10 days later, than US verison of W101 another 10 days later. see where things are going? october will grab august/september momentum and raise it with zelda ww remake, wii party u, sonic lw, batman and AC4 and the holidays will be huge with DK, mario, watch dogs, wii fit u, mario and sonic, call of retrocess + other multis.

Lego is a MUCH bigger franchise than Pikimin, not even close

Im inclined to believe that Pikmin will boost sales more than Lego did, Lego games sell well but its not like people are goin to buy a new system for them when there is already dozens of Lego games available across like 10 other platforms. Pikmin has a pretty dedicated fan base and alot of those people are waiting for it to release before getting a Wii U.



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Assyrian612 on 06 July 2013
happydolphin said:
Assyrian612 said:
happydolphin said:

You don't know anything about Nintendo and it's pretty obvious in your posts. I will smack you in the face so reality comes to you (your own words):

1. Nintendo is a business, they try things, they either work or they don't they are no way surprised by anything . If something doesn't work, they will fix it, like they did the 3DS.

2. They are not arrogant, and that is trolling, but whatever let me show you how you're wrong. Their model is actually to put consumers first, the games they are releasing reflect the purchasing trends of the consumers. You're just so centered around yourself that whatever doesn't please you isn't according to the needs of consumers. This just in: you're not important to them.

3. There is no reason that buying a 32GB makes a buyer more blind than buying a non 32 GB. Your point is so poorly constructed I can't even begin to break it apart.

4. You're calling Nintendo's consumers sheep and you think that's not trolling. The problem is that even if this weren't trolling, there is no proper logic to you calling Nintendo's consumers sheep. I challenge you to do it. But before you do, I just want you to know that it won't work.

5. Microsoft changing its policies has nothing to do with Nintendo's consumerbase's buying habits.

6. A great investment to you may not be a great investment to somebody else. You calling me a JigglyPuff (codeword for fanboy) proves that you are being arrogant.

7. New Super Mario Bros. is actually going very well, I think it's an awesome game. I could easily troll most of Sony's games here just in terms of sales but I won't because I'm not an ingrown asshair.

Now go to bed, you need your sleep, there's a lot more work set out for you, lots of Nintendo and xbox fans to troll. Chop chop.

You won't smack no one little man, I won't even resort to threats over video game bcuz it makes you sound like the 12 year old you are. Now let's join your nerd battle, ready set go..

1. Irrelevant two different products, two different genres home console vs handheld.

2. Insults and no logic explained except Jiggly Puff comments.

3.When your Jiggly Puff company offers you a 32gb console for the price of $349 that is completely consumer first right? LOL wake up bro, your head is up Nintendo's rear.

4.Nintendo consumers are sheep, where's the 100 million that bought the Wii? oh that's right check your phone or tablet.

5.Microsoft is an example for trying to go business first consumer last, how'd that workout. Check the Amazon polls bub.

6. Sorry for calling you a jiggly puff and I agree everyone is entitled to what they deem is a good investment.

7.Right bcuz let's compare innovation vs repetition since SNES. Where is Super Mario Sunshine or Metroid real games that matter?

The only person who needs sleep is you lol. This argument might even make you lose some sleep, very very sad thing awwww poor Jiggy. LOLZ

1. nop. It's the same company so it doesn't matter.

2. nop. (no comment)

3. nop. People buy what they consider a good product proposal. If 32GB console is worth 350$ then all the power to them.

4. nop.  The people who bought the Wii may not be happy with the U or found their tastes met elsewhere. No sheeping here.

5. nop. Nintendo is putting consumerbase first, you last. Thank God.

6. nop. Don't be sorry, be intelligent.

7. nop. I like NSMB and that's all that matters here.

8. nop. I've been here for 3 years and have dealt with people like you in the past, this is just another day in the grind.

You just scored 8/8 in the nop scorecard. Great results.

What's a nop card? It's spelled "nope". The rest of your points are irrelevant, but I find 5 and 8 hilarious. I thank Sony for putting me first(Recap E3) thank you very much dear LORD. As for point 8 lol whatever you say Slim Thug.



 

Assyrian612 on 06 July 2013
MohammadBadir said:
Assyrian612 said:
twilight_link said:
Sony fans and their constant need to express what Nintendo must do, for whatever reason, what a joke.

Just trying to help the little ones y'know.


I find it hilarious that I know 5 grown ups with Wii Us and 8 kids with PS3s XD

I agree, that is I guess old school gamers vs the new age. I don't know anyone that personally owns a Wii U. I do have more than 10 relatives all with PS3's be it young and adult.



 

Assyrian612 on 06 July 2013
JayWood2010 said:
Assyrian612 said:
mind said:
Arguing all over again, pff...

You don't even need to look at ps4-x1, wii u needs price cut(to $249 - wii launch price) no matter what, even "big games" won't help.

Someone with logic thank you very much


Did logic get you banned too?

@OT WiiU does need a price drop but it could do well with being $300.  It just doesn't have a system seller yet.  If the WiiU does not do well this Holiday then people can panic.  At this moment, no worries.  Wait for games before worrying about Nintendo.  

Weren't you the guy that said Iraq bombed the U.S.A in 9-11? What were you saying something about logic?



 

forethought14 on 06 July 2013

Wii U needs a price drop because the PS4 is just 50$ more expensive? Also because PS4 is more powerful? Wasn't the cheapest 360 at Wii's launch 299$, while Wii was 249$? 50$ difference, huge horsepower advantage for 360 (bigger horsepower difference than WiiU to PS4), more games for 360, Wii still sold better. All Wii U needs is games, and a reason for purchasing it, and you'll have people buy it, it's simple! The 50$ price tag difference will not affect much.

inb4itsnotthesamesituationaswiisodontcompare



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zorg1000 on 06 July 2013
oniyide said:
pezus said:
Gamegears said:
pezus said:

1. PS3 hasn't even come close to 20k in a single week...ever. So no, WiiU sales are nowhere near PS3 sales. Even though PS3 didn't launch in PAL regions until late March 2007. And you know that PS3 and 360 won't disappear from the market when PS4 and One come out, so WiiU will still be more expensive than they are. Why would PS4 and One costing more have any effect on WiiU's state in the world? In the eyes of the hardcore gamers, there are good reasons for PS4 being $100-$150 more expensive than a PS3. The reasons for WiiU being $30 to $80 more expensive than a PS3 are harder to see.

2. This point counters your first point. It's the same thing I pointed out.

3. Some years ago, Mario would be mentioned as Nintendo's biggest IP. 20-30k per week for months sure is steady, but in this case steady isn't good at all. Of course the games will boost the sales, but the boost won't be big enough (to turn things around) without a price cut.

4. Possible. But a few hundred k units doesn't change much in the grand scheme of things. The price cut needs to be permanent.

You seem to be the opposite to many Nintendo fans in here, who say the WiiU needs a price cut but don't think it will get one.


Actually there was plenty of times the PS3 sold around 20K worldwide.. and actually.. some weeks the Wii U is doing better in the US then the PS3 did.. I don't think it will help it too much.. but still.. and a few hundread K Units don't make a differance?? it does if the momentum carries.. and that few hundread K becomes Millions by years end.. and no Point 2 does not exactly counteract point one.. what I was saying is when the others come out.. they will not only have their last gen.. but also Wii U to compete with which is next gen.. at the end.. they could suffer more than the Wii U for that.. or maybe not.. The Wii U might be able to holsd it's own because it is a next gen system.. and will have the games to back it up.. (From Nintendo)


Bold: Like...when?

Its lowest sales point in 2007 was 50k...without being out in PAL regions. I don't know what charts you are looking at, but WiiU is doing significantly worse in USA than PS3 did back in 2007.

A few hundred K units don't make a difference, indeed. There is no momentum after BF if the price goes back to where it was. Vita got a nice increase last BF, but did that ultimately help it much? 

The consumers look at systems, not generations. They don't think: Oooh, this is a next gen system and this one is not, especially when the games look so identical between PS3/360/WiiU. Already they are shunning the WiiU over PS3 and 360, and since PS4 and One will appeal to them with similar game support along with next-gen exclusives, with better graphics than PS3, 360 and WiiU, they will sell well. You also disregard the extra competition WiiU will get come November when it won't be the only "next-gen" system around. If WiiU is being shunned now for last-gen systems, why won't it continue to be shunned for last-gen systems AND other next-gen systems? That is, if there is no pricecut.

why wont people answer this question? THey'll say games, but its not like the HD twins arent getting a new installment in one of the biggest franchises in the industry even if that wont boost consoles it will keep people playing, and attention away from Wii U and even the newer ones, theres not coming out on Wii U this year besides maybe Wii FIt that is close to GTA status and even wii fit is a stretch as i doubt people are clamoring to throw down hundreds of bucks on a system just for that.

People will say that because its true look at the releases from PS360 just this year vs Wii U. DMC, Dead Space 3, Metal Gear Rising, Gears of War, God of War, Sly Cooper, Ni No Kuni, Last of Us, Metro, Colonial Marines, Dead Island, Bioshock,  Tomb Raider, Crysis 3. The only quality exclusivr Wii U has gotten this year is Lego City and Injustice is the only multiplat its got thats not a late port. Later this year it has about 10 or so quality exclusives and another 10 or so multiplats released on time. Also ur right about GTA keeping alot of people on PS360 for the time being but Pikmin, Luigi U, W101, Wind Waker, Party U, Fit U, DKC, Sonic Lost World, Mario 3D World, Mario & Sonic Olympics is a very solid line up and will appeal to alot of people. Add in some nice holiday deals and bundles like Basic-$199 on black friday or Deluxe w/3D World+Wiimote for $299 along with better marketing and u will see very good sales this holiday. Im betting 360 and PS3 will do better but Wii U will be right there with them. As for PS4/One, majority of people buying those consoles this year are huge fans of said console and wont be swayed by anything, so a Wii U price cut wont do anything in that regard. They might as well keep the price it is to make as much profit as they can and let games+advertising+holiday deals/bundles do the talking. Next year once the launch hype dies down and the new consoles weekly sales level is the time to strike, price cut+Mario Kart combo could be big, a $299 Mario Kart bundle vs $399-499 consoles with no game looks apealling to the average consumer.



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Locknuts on 06 July 2013

Pack in Mario Kart. Make the Deluxe version $299. Sit back and enjoy the sales.



AshKetchum1992 on 06 July 2013
Locknuts said:
Pack in Mario Kart. Make the Deluxe version $299. Sit back and enjoy the sales.

This so much



Assyrian612 on 06 July 2013
forethought14 said:

Wii U needs a price drop because the PS4 is just 50$ more expensive? Also because PS4 is more powerful? Wasn't the cheapest 360 at Wii's launch 299$, while Wii was 249$? 50$ difference, huge horsepower advantage for 360 (bigger horsepower difference than WiiU to PS4), more games for 360, Wii still sold better. All Wii U needs is games, and a reason for purchasing it, and you'll have people buy it, it's simple! The 50$ price tag difference will not affect much.

inb4itsnotthesamesituationaswiisodontcompare

You have to remember the economy at the time bro. People wanted the best deal and Wii gave them innovation at the time. Packed with a good line up of games such as smash, zelda, and galaxy it was hard to pass up a Wii at that price. As time progressed that market faded and Nintendo tried to continue over to the next innovative tech piece. Unfortunately the price doesn't favor what other options are available. A 32GB Wii U at $349.99 vs a 500GB PS4 at $399.99. I really really doubt people fail to see this. A price drop would boost sales and improve the install base. It would also give Nintendo a chance to compete. Without a price drop it's not looking good. I expect a price drop around the releases of Xbox One and PS4 maybe a few months after. Good news for Nintendo is its partnership with Sega. That could be a key thing in the future.



 

oniyide on 06 July 2013
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
Zero999 said:
pezus said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
Nintendo can surely afford a price cut in the west at the moment with the falling yen. The question is, would they want to? Losing $50 potential income per unit or more is significant cash to throw away. The key would be how many more units they would sell. If at the current price they would sell 5 million more Wii U's through the end of the year and price drop would bump it to 6, I doubt they would do it. But if the difference was 3 million and 7 million, surely they would.

I think we'll be able to tell if they are going to do it once Pikmin 3 launches. If that, and the following software, bumps sales of Wii U's to more respectable levels, they may stay the course. If sales stay awful, a price cut is coming.

Pikmin 3 won't boost sales much and even if it does boost by a few dozen k's, then it will be only for 2 weeks or so. I feel like another Donkey Kong Country and a Mario 3D Land type Mario won't help the WiiU enough for Nintendo to not need a price cut. That is, if they care about beating the competition at all. Because you can forget that if there's no price cut this year. 

if lego city boosted sales to almost 80k, certainly pikmin 3 will give it a higher boost.. if you think it will only be a few dozen k's you are delusional. and even if that was for 2 weeks (i don't think it will), there's splinter cell and the european version of W101 coming 2 weeks later, than rayman 10 days later, than US verison of W101 another 10 days later. see where things are going? october will grab august/september momentum and raise it with zelda ww remake, wii party u, sonic lw, batman and AC4 and the holidays will be huge with DK, mario, watch dogs, wii fit u, mario and sonic, call of retrocess + other multis.

Lego is a MUCH bigger franchise than Pikimin, not even close

Im inclined to believe that Pikmin will boost sales more than Lego did, Lego games sell well but its not like people are goin to buy a new system for them when there is already dozens of Lego games available across like 10 other platforms. Pikmin has a pretty dedicated fan base and alot of those people are waiting for it to release before getting a Wii U.


that could be possible but i dont have as much faith in Pikmin as some people here seem to have