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Forums - Gaming - Poll Reveals that Japan May be Losing Interest in Home Consoles

zumnupy10 on 04 July 2013

No poll was needed to realize this. The weekly hardware charts say it.



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teigaga on 04 July 2013

Well has no one been paying attention to the hardware sales the last few years. The ps3 has had no competition and still sold mediocre throughout its life.



HikenNoAce on 04 July 2013
tuscaniman99 said:
@HikenNoAce
I guess we'll see if it will make up sales in the US. I'm sure it will start out faster than the PS3 did in the US because of price but the determining factor is if it keeps momentum. Microsoft isn't just going to sit around and let Sony steal US marketshare.


There's not much MS can do.



Kaizar on 04 July 2013
DietSoap said:
There's been a decline in total japanese sales every gen since the 5th (31 million), with the 6th gen at roughly 28 million, and current gen at roughly 24 million.

I hate to be an alarmist here, but dedicated game handheld sales are on a decline compared to last gen as well: with about 27 months under it's belt, the 3DS is just under 12 million in Japan, where as the DS was just under 15.5 million in 27 months... And I don't even think I'd need to mention the Vita, but that too is under at 1.5 million in Japan in 18 months as opposed to the PSP's 3.5 million in 18 months. We're already looking at a 5.5 million drop gen over gen for handhelds, an even bigger drop than what we saw last gen for consoles, and frankly that handheld only looks to grow as the gen goes on while the PS3 might be able to shore up another 1 million before everything is said and done this gen and raise the drop to only 3 million.

Thankfully, I have a sneeking suspicion Japanese developers will be able to hop on board this gen much more quickly and in much more meaningful numbers (as well as with much more significant games) than last gen, so hopefully that can help stop the bleeding a good bit.


But I believe the DS already had Pokémon Diamond & Pearl by then.

The 3DS doesn't have Pokémon X & Y yet.

I think it's best to wait til April 1st 2K14 to compare the DS to 3DS sales in Nihon.



tuscaniman99 on 04 July 2013

@HikenNoAce
Just like there was nothing Sony could do with the PS3? MS could easily drop the price to match the PS4 price. They won't do it until next year at the earliest because early adopters will buy the X1 no matter the price at launch. I predict a fall 2014 $100 price drop to match the PS4 with Kinect still included. Combine this with Halo releasing and X1 will have a huge second holiday. If they keep the price at $499 for holiday 2014 then MS really is stupid and Sony will most likely win this gen. X1 can't be priced higher than PS4 for too long.



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curl-6 on 04 July 2013

This is nothing new, the Japanese have been losing interest in home consoles for years now.



McDonaldsGuy on 04 July 2013
HikenNoAce said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
The PS2 sold 23 million consoles in Japan, which is equal to the amount of Wii and PS3 consoles sold COMBINED. The DS and PSP combined sales in Japan equal well over 50 million.

The problem is that Japanese devs couldn't adapt to the HD generation. Konami, Capcom, Sega, Namco weren't irrelevant but took a back seat to western devs this generation, and in the next generation, they are practically done. Konami has Metal Gear Solid and that's it. Capcom couldn't even get Dead Rising 3 going til Microsoft helped them.

It's sad to see. Japanese games have the heart and soul you don't see in many western games. Hopefully they finally adapt this next generation, but as I said, they are barely on the radar. Square Enix looks to be making a little comeback with Final Fantasy 15 and Kingdom Hearts 3, but who knows when they will be out and if that is all S.E. has (for Japanese).


How do Japanese games have heart but not western games?

Japanese have lost their heart and soul I believe as well, in their effort to westernize games. But games like Castlevania, Mega Man, Radiant Silvergun, Super Mario, Panzer Dragoon, Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, Contra, Resident Evil, Act Raiser, Snatcher, etc. etc. The Saturn had tons of soul as well, for example. It's just not the same today with generic shooters like Mass Effect, Gears of War, Halo, Call of Duty etc. etc. They're not bad games but they are super generic and expendable.



Kaizar on 04 July 2013
McDonaldsGuy said:
HikenNoAce said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
The PS2 sold 23 million consoles in Japan, which is equal to the amount of Wii and PS3 consoles sold COMBINED. The DS and PSP combined sales in Japan equal well over 50 million.

The problem is that Japanese devs couldn't adapt to the HD generation. Konami, Capcom, Sega, Namco weren't irrelevant but took a back seat to western devs this generation, and in the next generation, they are practically done. Konami has Metal Gear Solid and that's it. Capcom couldn't even get Dead Rising 3 going til Microsoft helped them.

It's sad to see. Japanese games have the heart and soul you don't see in many western games. Hopefully they finally adapt this next generation, but as I said, they are barely on the radar. Square Enix looks to be making a little comeback with Final Fantasy 15 and Kingdom Hearts 3, but who knows when they will be out and if that is all S.E. has (for Japanese).


How do Japanese games have heart but not western games?

Japanese have lost their heart and soul I believe as well, in their effort to westernize games. But games like Castlevania, Mega Man, Radiant Silvergun, Super Mario, Panzer Dragoon, Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, Contra, Resident Evil, Act Raiser, Snatcher, etc. etc. The Saturn had tons of soul as well, for example. It's just not the same today with generic shooters like Mass Effect, Gears of War, Halo, Call of Duty etc. etc. They're not bad games but they are super generic and expendable.


You should check out the 3rd party 3DS games that are Japanese. The Japanese regain their heart & soul with what they have been making for the 3DS.

I plan on getting Project X Zone this month, and maybe some other Japanese games too.



coolguy on 04 July 2013

There are millions of people in Japan and they only ask 2 thousd



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McDonaldsGuy on 05 July 2013
Kaizar said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
HikenNoAce said:
McDonaldsGuy said:
The PS2 sold 23 million consoles in Japan, which is equal to the amount of Wii and PS3 consoles sold COMBINED. The DS and PSP combined sales in Japan equal well over 50 million.

The problem is that Japanese devs couldn't adapt to the HD generation. Konami, Capcom, Sega, Namco weren't irrelevant but took a back seat to western devs this generation, and in the next generation, they are practically done. Konami has Metal Gear Solid and that's it. Capcom couldn't even get Dead Rising 3 going til Microsoft helped them.

It's sad to see. Japanese games have the heart and soul you don't see in many western games. Hopefully they finally adapt this next generation, but as I said, they are barely on the radar. Square Enix looks to be making a little comeback with Final Fantasy 15 and Kingdom Hearts 3, but who knows when they will be out and if that is all S.E. has (for Japanese).


How do Japanese games have heart but not western games?

Japanese have lost their heart and soul I believe as well, in their effort to westernize games. But games like Castlevania, Mega Man, Radiant Silvergun, Super Mario, Panzer Dragoon, Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger, Contra, Resident Evil, Act Raiser, Snatcher, etc. etc. The Saturn had tons of soul as well, for example. It's just not the same today with generic shooters like Mass Effect, Gears of War, Halo, Call of Duty etc. etc. They're not bad games but they are super generic and expendable.


You should check out the 3rd party 3DS games that are Japanese. The Japanese regain their heart & soul with what they have been making for the 3DS.

I plan on getting Project X Zone this month, and maybe some other Japanese games too.


No doubt, the 3DS is my favorite system right now. But like this thread said, it's pretty much all on handhelds now. Project X Zone looks awesome, though I am not much of a fan of Tekken. Know what would even be more awesome? The World Ends With You 2.

 

I just hope that this generation they finally regain their heart and soul on the PS4 or Wii U (and Xbox One too!), but it looks like they are not. Capcom, Sega, Konami, SNK, Namco, were all basically no shows outside of MGS5 and Dead Rising and Sonic. Square Enix came out with KH3 and FF15 but that's it.... man I miss the NES-PS2 days.... all those great Japanese games. Western games aren't bad either though (though it may seem like I am bashing them). Borderlands and God of War are some of my favorite series.