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oniyide said:
Adinnieken said:
oniyide said:

well he/she didnt say "some" so that implies he/she is talking about everyone. Especially considering said person's posting histroy, which is probably why he/she got modded in the first place.

and FYI i didnt report anything.

He/she didn't need to. 

Is it absolutely necessary that we define to perfection exactly what we are speaking about?  Can we not make reasonable generalizations without being offended?

The problem isn't what HE/SHE said, it's what YOU are reading into it! 

There is NOTHING ban worthy in what DirtyP said, and the fact that a moderator banned someone for saying it is offensive.  I can live with someone being immature and feeling they were offended by nothing, but the moderators are supposed to rise above that.  They're supposed to be a moderating force within the community NOT complicit in its offenses.

And again, YOU are reading in to what is being said.  I never said you reported anything and I never accused you of doing so.  Did I?

if you want to speak to people? yeah it is. 

Maybe you've havent been a member long enough. But i have and I know that DirtyP was stealth trolling, the MODS know it was a stealth troll which is why he/she was banned. Im not offended at all, i could care less. I was just commenting on why he/she was banned and if you dont like it take it up with the mod that banned him.

How do you know it was  a stealth troll. Maybe he's trying to clean it up and was being sincere. The ban should be judged from the comment alone, not past history. It's either that person gets banned or doesn't for that type of post. Not every person has  different rules attached to them.



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green_sky said:

Only about half of the people finish the single player campaign in Call of Duty games. So they do sell 25 million a year on the strength of multiplayer. Yes this for all of those writing off the game because it is multiplayer only.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/21/titanfall-doesnt-contain-single-player-because-only-a-small-percentage-will-finish-it/

http://www.gamezone.com/news/2011/11/03/only-18-6-of-players-have-completed-cod-black-ops-single-player-campaign

How many of you know it all people would spend 60-70% of your resources on single player when you know only 1 in 5 people will bother with them?

My personal opinions on multiplayer may not match up to the 20 million COD fans... but does that mean those of us who generally prefer single player games are not allowed an opinion?

I mean look at warthunder and world of tanks, amazingly successful... doesnt mean i want to play them :)



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J_Allard said:
oniyide said:
Mr Puggsly said:
J_Allard said:
DC Universe didn't "do well" because it was an average MMO.

MAG didn't do well because it was a below average title that tried to live on a gimmick 256 player feature.

If Titanfall is half as good as CoD 1-4 were, it will sell great. If they put "from the makers of CoD" on the box it's going to add tons of sales.

Right, people are just using mediocre games as an example of how online only games do on consoles.

Destiny and Titanfall might be the first great console games that are online only.

quality is subjective for 1,  and for 2 hwo about you name some games that were online only on consoles and sold good?

Can you name an online only console shooter that was any good? I mean, guys can throw out games like MAG or SOCOM Confrontation as evidence, but did those games not sell all that great because they were online only, or did they not sell all that great because the games themselves were not all that great? How well do you think games as good as Battlefield or CoD would sell with no SP component? My guess would still be in the millions.

And LOL @ that Xbox list. Yikes. People talked as if MAG sold like trash, so he correctly reminded us that MAG outsold most other Sony games. No need to be so defensive :)

I cant and thats my point, IMHO they have been mediocore at best. Its a combination of being online only and those games not being all that to begin with that  leads to just ok sales. THe only game tha seemed to be alright is that DUST game and thats online only so who knows how well its doing. 

No, COD wouldnt have reached the heights it did without a strong SP campaign, lets be real here. COD didnt become big till COD4, so it took many entries for it become the juggernaut it is today, and people werent exactly playing the early CODs for strong MP component, they are NOW. BF has always been a PC game and it now has SP modes so that game is kinda moot here. 

DOnt know about the lists im still waiting for all the games that sold better than MAG so we can have a real comparison.



DJEVOLVE said:
oniyide said:
Adinnieken said:
oniyide said:

well he/she didnt say "some" so that implies he/she is talking about everyone. Especially considering said person's posting histroy, which is probably why he/she got modded in the first place.

and FYI i didnt report anything.

He/she didn't need to. 

Is it absolutely necessary that we define to perfection exactly what we are speaking about?  Can we not make reasonable generalizations without being offended?

The problem isn't what HE/SHE said, it's what YOU are reading into it! 

There is NOTHING ban worthy in what DirtyP said, and the fact that a moderator banned someone for saying it is offensive.  I can live with someone being immature and feeling they were offended by nothing, but the moderators are supposed to rise above that.  They're supposed to be a moderating force within the community NOT complicit in its offenses.

And again, YOU are reading in to what is being said.  I never said you reported anything and I never accused you of doing so.  Did I?

if you want to speak to people? yeah it is. 

Maybe you've havent been a member long enough. But i have and I know that DirtyP was stealth trolling, the MODS know it was a stealth troll which is why he/she was banned. Im not offended at all, i could care less. I was just commenting on why he/she was banned and if you dont like it take it up with the mod that banned him.

How do you know it was  a stealth troll. Maybe he's trying to clean it up and was being sincere. The ban should be judged from the comment alone, not past history. It's either that person gets banned or doesn't for that type of post. Not every person has  different rules attached to them.

its my understanding that mods do take history into account, take that how you want it.



Madword said:
green_sky said:

Only about half of the people finish the single player campaign in Call of Duty games. So they do sell 25 million a year on the strength of multiplayer. Yes this for all of those writing off the game because it is multiplayer only.

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/21/titanfall-doesnt-contain-single-player-because-only-a-small-percentage-will-finish-it/

http://www.gamezone.com/news/2011/11/03/only-18-6-of-players-have-completed-cod-black-ops-single-player-campaign

How many of you know it all people would spend 60-70% of your resources on single player when you know only 1 in 5 people will bother with them?

My personal opinions on multiplayer may not match up to the 20 million COD fans... but does that mean those of us who generally prefer single player games are not allowed an opinion?

I mean look at warthunder and world of tanks, amazingly successful... doesnt mean i want to play them :)

My friend i do play all the campigns of Call of Duty games. So i am one of the few who actually is their prospective customer when it comes to single player. I was merely pointing out that people don't understand that they are a new developer. Yes they have the pedigree of Call of Duty but even they could not secure the same kind of budget to play around as they did with Activision. 

A team of 70 people really have to priorotize how they go about making their games as in today's world that is at most mid tier developer size. So i fully understand and support their idea of going multiplayer focus with mix of AI enemies. Also the fact that this is new ip that we didn't even knew existed just a couple of months ago but now all of a sudden we are suppose to write it off by writing poorly written forum posts. I mean they could have cut the price down but just like any game the first batch of people who buy the game have no problem paying retail price. Heck sometimes even more when it comes to special/limited editions of games. So price drop will come naturally. 

Also World of Tanks doesn't reaise any exitement in me either. Don't know about Warthunder. Thanks :)



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It's multiplayer only?! Bump that noise.



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oniyide said:

I cant and thats my point, IMHO they have been mediocore at best. Its a combination of being online only and those games not being all that to begin with that  leads to just ok sales. THe only game tha seemed to be alright is that DUST game and thats online only so who knows how well its doing. 

No, COD wouldnt have reached the heights it did without a strong SP campaign, lets be real here. COD didnt become big till COD4, so it took many entries for it become the juggernaut it is today, and people werent exactly playing the early CODs for strong MP component, they are NOW. BF has always been a PC game and it now has SP modes so that game is kinda moot here. 

DOnt know about the lists im still waiting for all the games that sold better than MAG so we can have a real comparison.

That's exactly what we are saying, the games thrown up for comparison have been mostly pretty ho-hum games that wouldn't have sold great no matter what. DUST is free to play.

I didn't say CoD would have reached "the same heights", only that it still would have sold in the millions. Your reply says as such. CoD didn't become huge until CoD4, even though it had always had amazing SP campaigns.

The part of my reply about the list was not really directed at you unless you're the one who took the time for a rebuttal list. But you can just count the games on that list higher than MAG. I think there were only 24 or so. It's clearly outsold most other Sony games on PS3.



oniyide said:
DJEVOLVE said:

How do you know it was  a stealth troll. Maybe he's trying to clean it up and was being sincere. The ban should be judged from the comment alone, not past history. It's either that person gets banned or doesn't for that type of post. Not every person has  different rules attached to them.

its my understanding that mods do take history into account, take that how you want it.

I understand if it's a offense that could get you banned and you get warned a few times and you keep doing it, then yes it should be a ban but the mods could have banned them the first time. Either way I haven't been banned since I think 2008. So I'm not so worried but I also haven't posted as much and didn't log in for years.

I try to keep it chill. However I see some people on here getting away with murder and some can barely post. No need to name names.



It would be cool if it came to ps4, but I was picking it up for my Pc so doesnt really bother me:)



 

dont want it much rather have dead rising 3

thought it wasnt possible on ps4 b/c of teh cloud



                                                             

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