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S.T.A.G.E. on 29 June 2013
AndrewWK said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
AndrewWK said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Thats great. Sony has far more successes than Microsoft in first party IP's and might not sell as much as Nintendo from but they take risks which Nintendo hasnt done with a new character since Pikmin.

don´t be silly. Sonys exclusive catalog is the weirdest thing there is. If they´d just stop ripping off Nintendo for some of the titles some of the first party games would be less emberassing and probably more successfull. And you know what games I am talking about.


How does this refute my point about Sonys investment in new IP's? They've put out great games this generation and invested more into it than anyone else. This gen they said they would be buckling down to increase the quality.

They put out three maybe 4 great games this generation and a bunch of good ones. Sony should rather invest in quality instead of quantity


Four great games this generation? Wow dude....so be it if thats your opinion.



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F0X on 29 June 2013

They're starting to sound like Nintendo. :/ Such positioning only works if the games are actually worthwhile.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 30 June 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


"Sony relies more on on 3rd parties to push their hardware than 1st party. "

This was your point. I just dubunked it. 

Feast your eyes upon the opitomy of being dependent on third party, Microsoft. Microsoft has paid more third parties to make more second party for them than first party in the current gen. They've paid for far more third parties exclusives and timed exclusives than Sony. To not understand this is to put the blame in the wrong place.

You debunked nothing.

MS and Sony both rely heavily on 3rd parties to push their hardware. Did you think I was saying that's exclusive to Sony?

But bear in mind 360 did sell more exclusive software than PS3.


Have you ever thought that half the reason for the sales is because MS got half of the active Sony gamers to switch sides? Yeah, I guess not. I've spoken about this before. Look at Microsoft and Sony's numbers last gen and a good chunk definitely came from last generations PS2 crowd that transfered over (me being one of them at the beginning of the generation) when MS had the head start. Microsoft sells more because they are a better direct marketing entity not because of their ip output. Xbox Live gave them an edge  with multiplayer games but somewhere during the end of the generation it leveled out for games like COD. The majority of those gamers majorly buy multiplayer so they are loyal to no flag.

Sonys sales are everywhere for exclusives because they spread their exclusive count so thin. People cannot afford every game they make. They need to do what MS did and slim down the list, but instead of allowing third parties to deliver the bulk of their offerings like their first party studios accomplish this with back up from second and third party.

If those gamers switch back the numbers will also change. 



think-man on 30 June 2013

Someones mad lol



 

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Proxy-Pie on 30 June 2013
F0X said:
They're starting to sound like Nintendo. :/ Such positioning only works if the games are actually worthwhile.

the difference here is that Nintendo actually made some games that proved specs and graphics are meaningless like Super Mario Galaxy and Xenoblade Chronicles, Microsoft so far seem like they're all just shooters and TV XD



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curl-6 on 30 June 2013

He does have a point though, that it's the games that matter, not the specs.
Better specs don't necessarily correlate with better games.



curl-6 on 30 June 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Four great games this generation? Wow dude....so be it if thats your opinion.

"Great" is a very, very high rank for some.

There are about 12 games across all platforms for the 7th gen that I'd call "great."



Mr Puggsly on 30 June 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Have you ever thought that half the reason for the sales is because MS got half of the active Sony gamers to switch sides? Yeah, I guess not. I've spoken about this before. Look at Microsoft and Sony's numbers last gen and a good chunk definitely came from last generations PS2 crowd that transfered over (me being one of them at the beginning of the generation) when MS had the head start. Microsoft sells more because they are a better direct marketing entity not because of their ip output. Xbox Live gave them an edge  with multiplayer games but somewhere during the end of the generation it leveled out for games like COD. The majority of those gamers majorly buy multiplayer so they are loyal to no flag.

Sonys sales are everywhere for exclusives because they spread their exclusive count so thin. People cannot afford every game they make. They need to do what MS did and slim down the list, but instead of allowing third parties to deliver the bulk of their offerings like their first party studios accomplish this with back up from second and third party.

If those gamers switch back the numbers will also change. 

I honestly have no idea what you're babbling about. All of this is irrelevant.

I hate that you waste your time with convoluted responses. You could be playing games instead.



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Netyaroze on 30 June 2013
geddie221 said:

Unfortunately, in this generation of retarded 12 years old "gamers", many people will be buying for the specs and da pwetty graffixx. 


People would be stupid not to buy the console with prettier graphics if its also cheaper and has the games people want.

When did pretty graphics turn into a negative ? " OH No the graphics are too good I won't buy that." But its also cheaper and smaller. "Nope"

 

Good Graphics are a positive thing and if the game libraries are the same or very similar it could influence alot of people in the end. Games are more important but in the case were Sony and MS platforms get mostly the same 3rd party games graphics are a factor. We will see soon how much of a difference it will translate to but people tend to buy the superior version and graphics are definetly a plus there.



Proxy-Pie on 30 June 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
LOL They seem to forget are games are Nintendo's forte.

Fixed

People actually buy Nintendo consoles primarily for their 1st party games.

Sony relies heavily on 3rd parties.


Sony has more new IP's than both Nintendo and Microsoft. What are you talking about? Gamestop even made an article about it a couple years back. They are more heavily involved in pumping out new IPs. Your bias knows no bounds. MS is just starting to properly invest in first party, while Sony has had great first party for years but was forced by Microsoft invest twice as heavily into it in their third generation.

so is that Sony's excuse for not having sustainable IPs?